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NEWS: Weekly Shonen Jump Editors Discuss Unauthorized Copies

Only certain series ever get licensed in English

Dragonpiece wrote:

While I think this is wrong, I will still sadly support it since their is literally no way American fans can see the latest chapters of something until it is available in the country.

If you like the magazine, you could get a subscription to it. Plenty of websites offer them for any of the major magazines (I pick up a few myself). That wiould, of course, involve paying for it.

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It's a whole different situation. First off, many scanlators aren't as concerned with quality and copyediting--it's not uncommon to find mistakes, mistranslations, and bad editing in a scanlation; even ones who are, it's rare to find anything that will match the quality of a good publisher.

If you want quality then you wait for the Viz releases. If you want speed then you go with the fanscans, everybody wins. But you can't tell me that "just wait for the Viz releases" would ever be a valid alternative to fanscans to people who DO care about speed over quality. There are two different products on offer, and they can't convince people to abandon the fanscans until they're prepared to release both quality AND speed themselves.

Ohoni wrote:

Quote: It's a whole different situation. First off, many scanlators aren't as concerned with quality and copyediting--it's not uncommon to find mistakes, mistranslations, and bad editing in a scanlation; even ones who are, it's rare to find anything that will match the quality of a good publisher. If you want quality then you wait for the Viz releases. If you want speed then you go with the fanscans, everybody wins. But you can't tell me that "just wait for the Viz releases" would ever be a valid alternative to fanscans to people who DO care about speed over quality. There are two different products on offer, and they can't convince people to abandon the fanscans until they're prepared to release both quality AND speed themselves.

Except that fans do not need manga nor do they have the right to read it for free when it's being released in their own country. If you want to read the latest scans and buy the books later, good for you, but too many people use the scans and nothing else. Would it be great for VIZ to "simul-release" manga chapters? Sure. But that doesn't give anyone the legal right to read the chapters online.

It's not that I haven't used scanlations are think people who do are terrible, evil people. I understand that it has helped push lesser known series to popularity. But it's licensed. To think that I have a right to a material I don't own and haven't paid for is preposterous. I acknowledge that people only using scans are going to continue to use them, but I doubt the ones leeching off the internet are going to pay for a service to read simul manga. The people are do pay are going to be the ones who buy the books in the first place; however, it also depends on how such a service would work and if it would be free.

For speed of volume releases: there really isn't anything anyone can do about it. It can take a bit to get a volume from a bunch of raw material to an English adaptation sitting in the bookstore. Rushing it may hurt the quality rather than persuade scanlation readers.

Although it's illegal... you can't stop it...

You just can't... l

Draneor wrote:

Dragonpiece wrote: While I think this is wrong, I will still sadly support it since their is literally no way American fans can see the latest chapters of something until it is available in the country. If you like the magazine, you could get a subscription to it. Plenty of websites offer them for any of the major magazines (I pick up a few myself). That wiould, of course, involve paying for it.

Are you talking about SJ monthly in US? Then yes, I am already subscribed to that. If you are talking about weekly jump, the no I am probably never going to pay for it because of the high prices(in the 3,000$ range) and because I don't know Japanese.

sunflower wrote:

The actual full statement, in Japanese, and a translation can seen at Anime Vice. It seems to be pointed at those posting raws, since the message is only in Japanese.

I'd say it applies to both, seeing as most of the big series in Jump it's talking about are readily available in english from VIZ. I'm curious if VIZ'll comment on it, I'm hoping ANN will talk with them about it- having a similar message printed in SJ USA would be nice to see

If the raws posting are taken down from the sites that host them this will not allow scanlators to get them off the internet in the first place.

SJ won't address scanlations because they would see it as not being their place, considering they don't have the rights to sell the books in English, having sold them elsewhere. Viz has English printing rights and it's up to them to address it.

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The Japanese manga publishers are behind the game of scanlation on the internet? The publishers should stop blaming internet sites and take responsibility for not utilizing the internet to its fullest potential. The publishers did not take control of the problem when it first occur and now want people to stop reading scanlation after all these years. So, due to the drop in sales the publishers are blaming the scanlation sites and crying out about how much it hurt the creators involved in producing manga (guilt trip).

This makes me sick to my stomach. What if you were a manga artist, and had your only means of a living broken because a group of "fans" don't have patience? You can't simply blame everything on the publishers and attack for game. The "fans" like you are at fault for not realizing that what scanslations are is essentially stealing.