Forum - View topicNEWS: Book of Eli's Albert Hughes: Warner Wants PG-13 Akira
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KanjiiZ
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But guys like Morgan Freeman and Samuel L. Jackson are so overused. Hollywood acts like they're the only people that can play an older black male and "balls-to-the-wall" coach respectively.
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robo-ky
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PG13+live action=ruined. jus watch original akira in 2D, this might turn out worse than dragonball
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aereus
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Really shouldn't have expected anything from this Akira anyways. It's the usual Hollywood thing where they take the basic plot and then completely change it by setting it in America and destroying all the characters.
It was going to be terrible even with it being R. |
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Nerv1
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I know, I really wish that Hollywood would just stop with the live action adaptions of whatever anime they can find and actually come up with original ideas like they used to years back. Making botched up anime adaptions of films will actually end up making people think and re-enforce the idea that many have of anime being childish or stupid. |
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Dakaran
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Man can't they just be true to stories? They lost me right from the start kinda...
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configspace
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so aside from toning everything down
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aereus
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Confirmed for suck. Why would you have to simplify a 2hour movie ... to make a 2hour movie? .... |
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enurtsol
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Not necessarily. Many good films lose money, but studios put up with it to get Oscar kudos next to their name.
Many of the Hollywood "classics" aren't original neither. It's just so old that most people aren't familiar with the sources anymore. Not many big film studios in the world make originals anymore, not even Japanese studios.
Talking about the manga, not the anime. Can't put every theme in the manga vol. 1-3 into a 2-3 hr movie. Even Ghost in the Shell couldn't do it. Or Lord of the Rings for that matter, and those films are long enough! 
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ikillchicken
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Ya can't do Akira without it being R. There's just no way. Maybe you could do something that's Akira in name only but still decent at PG-13 but the chances of that would seem to be ever shrinking.
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Charred Knight
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Honest to god question
Am I the only person who didn't watch Akira for the Blood and tits? I mean from the discussion you swear they where announcing a PG-13 of Apocalypse Zero, if the only reason you watched Akira was because of the rape scene than there are a ton of pornos you could watch, I reccomend Wordsworth. Let's take this quote from wikipedia "The film explores a number of psychological and philosophical themes, such as the nature of corruption, the will to power, and the growth from childhood to maturity both in individuals and the human race itself. Elements of Buddhist and Christian symbolism are also present in the film. Notable themes in the film include youth culture, cyberpunk, delinquency, psychic awareness, social unrest and revolution, the world's reaction toward a nuclear holocaust and Japan's post-war economic revival." Did you notice that none of the various themes of the series are what happens when a human body explodes? You don't need graituitous violence or nudity to tell a mature story. |
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samuelp
Industry Insider
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First off, it wouldn't be gratuitous if it was needed, by definition. So your statement is a tautology. Secondly, one could equally say that you don't need cool motorcycles to tell a proper post apocalyptic story. But an Akira without those wouldn't be Akira, right? |
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Charred Knight
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You know when I asked if I was the only person who watched Akira for something other than blood and tits I didn't want a yes for the answer. If you think like that than Apocalypse Zero sells for less than 14 dollars at Amazon Marketplace. Naked people isn't a theme, people exploding isn't a theme, if your so shallow than clearly Katsuhiro Otomo failed. Also the importance of the mortorcycle is to show the rebellion of youth. |
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PetrifiedJello
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If all Warner wants is a PG-13 rating, then scrap the boob shot and it's there.
Other than that, I'd be at a complete loss how this series isn't already PG-13 (even with the 1 second shot). This doesn't bode well if they're adapting the story so much, they now have to worry about a PG-13 rating. Unless the Board of Geezers is afraid of "dark and gloomy" films and instantly rates them as "R". Oh well. We've the 2D version to keep us fans satisfied if this movie doesn't live up to expectations. |
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Strike Freedom Meister
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Guys,
I have a copy of Akira in my DVD collection. Considering the man who did the Book of Eli is behind this, I think we are in good hands. I saw the Book of Eli and it was a GREAT film. It comes down to the team assembled and how they assemble the elements of the anime on screen. It starts with the writer. So far, so good. Next it comes down to the director and producer to stay true to the source material as possible. The cinematographer must convince us that this is really Neo-Tokyo in the year 2019. I think this can be accomplished by filming exterior shots in San Francisco's "Little Osaka" blocks, San Jose's "Japantown" areas, and "Little Tokyo" in Los Angeles. Some elements can accomplished with some good matte work & limited CGI elements. It could also be shot in NYC with some matte & CGI work. I've heard they might change the city from Neo-Tokyo to Neo-Manhattan. Not crazy about it, but it's do-able. As Dark Knight showed us, you don't need to visualize excessive violence. You can hint at it, you can imply it, you can use music & reaction shots. It comes down to the strength of the actors, the blending of the special effects, the tonality of both the film visuals & mood of the music to recreate the environment. Obviously the special effects team will have to be top notch. The final ingredient that's crucial is the composer for the music. You need either a team like Hans Zimmer and James Newton Howard or a single composer who can stay true to the anime soundtrack. Do you guys know who the executive producer of this live action Akira is? Katsuhiro Otomo, THE CREATOR OF AKIRA. I seriously doubt that Katsuhiro Otomo would allow his creation to be butchered on his watch. I feel a lot better knowing that he will be on the set to recreate his masterpiece. |
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ikillchicken
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So hey, here's a though: Maybe...just for starters, you could stop being obnoxious. There's not really any need to call people names just because they don't agree with you. Anyway, obviously there's so much more to Akira than just R rated material. But there's also a lot of R rated material and I really doubt a fair bit of that 'so much more' would be workable without it being very violent. Besides, even though the R rated stuff isn't the main appeal of Akira, it's still an integral part. It's like...if they decided the Cowboy Bebop movie wasn't going to be set the future and in space. Sure there's a whole lot more to Bebop. Sure you could potentially still make a Cowboy Bebop movie that largely maintained the themes and ideas of the series even if it wasn't in space. But...it wouldn't really be Cowboy Bebop. It would be something else. |
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