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INTEREST: This Summer's New Swimming Anime Will Get Female Fans Thirsty

As a Shotacon,the character designs got me excited as fudge

Stuart Smith wrote:

Anime and manga have never been a "boys club". Series for females have existed since the 1960, one of which still airs to this day and is Japan's #1 anime. That also says nothing abouts sports series that have attracted females viewers which have been around since at least Captain Tsubasa back in 1981, which is also nothing new. It sounds like you are judging an entire medium based on one show you saw.

Nope. Go back and read what I actually wrote. Yes, there were "series for females" (women - they're called women) and some of them are good, a few actually great. But they were specific kinds of stories designed specifically for young girls/younger teenagers, with the occasional exception proving the rule. Most of the stories I found actually interesting, the ones I wanted to watch - the action shows, sci-fi shows, etc? Boys club, shows made with the assumption that they will be watched by a male audience. You clearly don't know what it is like to watch Cowboy Bebop (to use an example most everyone is familiar with) and be all "yes, I understand what you're doing with Faye but how about you tone it down a little bit? and does Julia have to wear a sexy catsuit?" Or even shows like GITS:SAC, one of my favorite anime ever - and yet I spent a considerable amount of the first season thinking "the Major is awesome but how about you give her some pants for chrissakes, it's difficult to take her seriously like this." And so on and so forth. All women must be beautiful/sexy, but the male characters? let them be vaguely decent looking (so it doesn't intimidate viewers), but otherwise meh, who cares.

Today's shows (at least the ones not squarely targeting specific otaku demographics) make sure to think of the potential female audience, including service targeted at them as well as male viewers. Now you have hot guys in the cast, not just hot chicks, care is taken to get popular male seiyuu for the important roles to croon into viewers' ears, to add Passionate Male Friendships(TM) for the segment that appreciates this, etc. It's a far cry from sweating blood to draw prettier versions of the characters from Captain Tsubasa, and digging deep to find subtext for your BL doujinshi.

So Princess Knight and Rose of Versailles and Touch, and Mahou Tsukai Sally (this isn't even in color) and Megu-chan and Aim for the Ace...

Did you know the original Comiket was originally a fujoshi doujin event?

What you're confusing is that "Sexy Fanservice" was thrown at the guys first because most of the animators were guys and drew what they wanted to see.

Also what's with that snide comment about 'women, yes they're called women.'?

Same as Free, these dudes don't have nipples. What's up with that?

Cam0 wrote:

Same as Free, these dudes don't have nipples. What's up with that?

Censorship.

Most of the stories I found actually interesting, the ones I wanted to watch - the action shows, sci-fi shows, etc? Boys club, shows made with the assumption that they will be watched by a male audience.

You clearly don't know what it is like to watch Cowboy Bebop (to use an example most everyone is familiar with) and be all "yes, I understand what you're doing with Faye but how about you tone it down a little bit? and does Julia have to wear a sexy catsuit?" Or even shows like GITS:SAC, one of my favorite anime ever - and yet I spent a considerable amount of the first season thinking "the Major is awesome but how about you give her some pants for chrissakes, it's difficult to take her seriously like this." And so on and so forth. All women must be beautiful/sexy, but the male characters? let them be vaguely decent looking (so it doesn't intimidate viewers), but otherwise meh, who cares.

The action and sci-fi genres have been dominated by male audiences since their inception. This is like a 65 year old grandpa complaining that YA novels aren't written for him.

At this point it just sounds like you're punishing male sexuality. Men are visual creatures and they enjoy seeing sexy things. It's hard for women to understand because our blatant predisposition for the visual simply has no female analogue.

Science fiction was created by a woman. Women have liked science fiction and been a part of it since its inception, so please. Don't forget that Star Trek was immensely popular with women and that show gave way to the "fathers of slash" (AKA Spock/Kirk).

Men and women are both visual creatures cause they have eyes. Men are not more visual than women.

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