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Dorcas_Aurelia
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Um, spoilers people? Yeah, there were plenty of hints, but still, would it kill you to spoiler[not reveal the death of a major character].
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ikky
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Updated OP animation can be viewed here: http://www.gametrailers.com/umwatcher.php?id=68481
anyway, like many others here I was blown away by spoiler[the death of Kamina]. Definitely one of the most memorable and emotional scenes in any anime I have seen. And of course, the animation was inhuman From now on, It seems like the secondary characters will get more screentime, and Simon will look more like the main character. |
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Vics3020
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How do you think spoiler[is the girl with pink hair and nice eyes that apears in the preview of the next chapter I think maybe she will revive kamina] To me kamina seem very hurt not dead plus no one got close to him and checked his vitals
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selenta
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Posts: 1774 Location: Seattle, WA |
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Well, that OP seals it I guess. To be honest, when I watched the first episode, I couldn't even finish it. I had to turn it off in disgust, and when people would put it on in the club room, I would tend to just decide that I was done for the day and head home since I had no intention of wasting 20 more minutes out of my life to watch something I hated.
Then one day, I decided "what the hell, I don't really want to go home yet" and sat and watched episodes 4-8 all in one go with the rest of the group. By episode 6 I actually found myself getting into it, and was extremely surprised. It was sooo stupid and sooo over the top, it crossed some sort of barrier that actually made it good. I'm not exactly sure how that works.... but apparently it does. By episode 7 I was really getting into it, and found myself really liking it. Kamina's reactions with the rest of the group were so hilariously stupid I couldn't help but laugh. Then we got to episode 8. I was definitely not liking it much at first, it gets all dramatic and the love interests actually move, but naturally not in the direction I wanted them to. It's not lame that Kamina gets the girl and all the attention just for being an unthinking stubborn idiot. And then spoiler[Kamina got hurt. I was surprised he got hurt as badly as he did, but considering the nature of the show I didn't think much of it. I remarked "Oh man, what if they killed off Kamina?! They'd never do it in this type of a show, they don't have the balls for that sort of change" considering that all the people who had got me to follow the show had done so because of Kamina; because they were hot-headed mecha fans that love anything with a mecha and even more so if they don't have to think when watching a show. And then, they did it. Kamina actually died, and I must say, that is absolutely AWESOME. I don't think anyone spoke a word for a full 3-4 minutes after episode 8 was over, we were all so dumbfounded that they actually did it. I never would have thought in a million years they would build the show like they did only to kill off the de facto main character. Gainex, I love you. It all hinges on episode 9, but if it is handled as well as I think it will be, this could be (and currently is) one of my overall top 2 or 3 of the season, and that's pretty hard to do in the spring. ] |
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7ThIsGod
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After episode 9... I'm seriously really excited about the route Lagann is taking beyond the whole Nia is adorable deal going on, even if she is indeed a really nice character through rather than the usual forced fan-service cute little girl. Seriously, everything felt really refreshing and well done, the script took a turn for the better and feels still exciting yet there's now an intriguing grand-scoped very well thought plot behind the action-script and the characterizations, or rather their presentation, went a real notch above what we had previously seen while the personalities and the effects of loss came through as amazingly humane while retaining consistency with the ones they held at the happy over-the-top days.
The mood this time was tremendous too, as good for its purpose as it was the previous feel for before, their conflict with the Spiral Empire feels like a real war now, hopeless and without an end. Simon's and Yoko's inner changes are fitting and, dare I say it, realistic. Both of them are devastated yet doing their best to fill in Kamina's shoes while most of their practically now "army" falls apart without any support, and the writing here was superb. Emotional, sure, but not exaggerated and even if at times somewhat heartbreaking still very fun, specially by the moment Nia enters in scene. Speaking of her, both she and the new characters are surprisingly cool and likable thus far, charismatic yet with a hint of complexity, specially as we now have learned more about beastmen themselves. Visually speaking this 22 minutes were once again a real sakuga-festa for those who like me really care about this kind of stuff. The animation was really introspective in a way similar to episode 7 of Haibane Renmei or 4 from Arjuna, so similar to them I dare to say the same Norio Matsumoto worked here. Not to say anything negative about the cinematography this time, good use of angles and scene composition, the same dynamic storyboarding we knew but much more personal. For sure the idea is not amazingly creative at all, specially considering they're going for the definitive and most exciting super-robot show by making their tributes towards the history of mecha as a whole, but it's so amazingly constructed and written you can't help but being grabbed in by the feeling of adventure and immersion those epic old-school journey adventures evoked in the past. It's very much correct the analogy made by me right after I read the titles for episode 9-11 in that Animage magazine: they're going through the big eras of giant robots. We're already through the pure entertainment Mazinger era, the more serious Macross and Ideon are next and you can already feel it. Two thumbs up on the follow up, Lagann team! |
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sykosteve
Posts: 356 Location: columbus, ga |
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As soon as i saw Kamina speak in the first episode, I knew he was going to die. First of all, this is Gainax, and it is prone to taking dark twists with their shows ala mahoromatic and to a lesser degree abenobashi.
second...He was too much like gai dai goji from nadesico to me, so that's a ticket to death right there. third...He was a motivational back board for simon, and it being a gainax show, he had to die -_-... |
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7ThIsGod
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Information from the Gurren-Lagann panel at the Fanime Con:
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Vics3020
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I'm confuse because I remember seen kamina on top of the dai gurren just in the first episode Yelling gurren laggan pierce troght the sky whit your drill so I tought he couldn´t posibly die but he did so maybe that of the first episode was a mistake or something wasnt it
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Rainulf
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lol, that wasn't him, I believe it was spoiler[Simon, I've even seen the grown up picture of him.. =P] |
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Vics3020
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Even if it were simon hoe would be piloting the langan and it wolud be creepy that simon turn out to be so similar to kamina
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Rainulf
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No, it wouldn't be creepy that Simon turn out to be so similar to Kamina. As a matter of fact, it's to be expected, because Simon idolize Kamina. In addition, Simon is the protagonist of this show (obviously, because he's always in the middle.. lol) where he must overcome himself, and be a man.. Loss of innocence, that's pretty much the theme of the show. |
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cycrone
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he's most likely to be exactly like kamina like how they portrayed the 1st episode. because who i thought was kamina was holdin the drill key of super ultimate doom of buttrapage but yea.. lol
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Iwatch2muchanime
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OI, because I move slow on the mass amounts of shows I watch, I'm on episode 6, but did anybody see in that episode, when Kamina was being hoarded by all those girls with bunny ears, those girls were Nono and Lal'C from Gunbuster 2, Rei and Asuka from Eva, Mahoro from Mahoromatic and other peeps from GAINAX?
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Dranxis
Posts: 591 Location: Ohtori Academy |
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Yeah, those girls were definitely Gainax cameos. Speaking of references, Viral's Ganmen was called Enkidu in episode 10, right? Is that a reference to Enkidu from the epic of Gilgamesh? Cause I was wondering if some of the other Ganmen... Like Sayrune, for example, might be named after characters from epics. Of course, it could be like most anime literary references, where names are just thrown around for the heck of it.
Anyway, this is seriously turning out to be an AWESOME show. I'm becoming more and more attached to these characters, even though they appeared to be one-dimensional in the beginning. I'm only worried that Simon might turn out to be another Shinji at this rate, but if the first episode tells us anything, he'll grow out of it before long. |
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v1cious
Posts: 6205 Location: Houston, TX |
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was anyone else kinda bothered by the fact that spoiler[Simon wants to be his own person, yet his ultimate attack is exactly the same (sunglasses and all)?]
all in all, 11 was a great episode. i was beginning to get sick of emo Simon. |
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