Forum - View topicHey, Answerman! [2007-07-06]
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Neverwhere
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Kyokat... While I agree with you on many points (well, every point, really ;- ), I would like to mention a few things:
-- Yaoi and BL are more prevalent because there's just so much out there, and now that companies know it sells they are snatching up every title they can get. -- The market in japan is just not as saturated with yuri as BL, so regardless of if it sells (and hurrah, it does, although Kashimashi is a rather exceptional and sweet introduction to the genre) there just isn't enough to license to fill the shelves. -- Yuri is not ecchi, or porn, it is not synonymous with yaoi or ero. It's more romantic and emotional and about character relationships, rather than sex. Most of the time, anyway. 
I do agree with you that the fanboy whinging about yaoi 'invading' America reeks of Male Privilege and is incredibly irksome and frustrating. (Get annoyed with the obnoxious girls who think it's acceptable to treat boys like glompable tools for their amusement, not the genre itself.) But wanting more of a yuri presence isn't a bad thing at all. As long as its a good story I am very happy to see just about anything licensed, because I want manga and anime companies to be successful, so they can bring over more of the things I personally want to see. (More josei! For the love of all things holy MORE JOSEI. ;- ) Also, thanks for introducing those who may not have read it before to that wonderful LJ entry. I think I have a comment somewhere in those 15 pages
We do have some ero guro in the states with the Urotosukidoji manga-ka's works, right? Or is that just labeled 'erotic horror' and not guro? I would have thought Arm of Kanon (or whatever it's called) would be considered guro, but perhaps that's just ignorance of the style/fetish on my part. I also find the whole thing utterly incomprehensible, but sadly possess a rampant curiosity that prevents me from leaving the subject alone. 
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Samurai-with-glasses
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Ero guro: Ouch. Now did someone used to say Ignorance is bliss? >.<
I just gotta resist the temptation to let the curiousity kill the cat. According to wiki the cat would be raped, skinned, covered in curious liquid component, and served as dinner if it's starring in an ero guro. Rant: I'm not sure what the ranter's point about the mecha is, but I can sort of kinda not really almost understand it. As for the answer to whatever question it was supposed to be: we can better relate to a giant destruction machine if it looks human, I guess, and that's kinda more heroic. Gankutsuou's interpretation of mecha makes that concept quite clearer than other series: those things are just giant knights. And trends tend to catch up. Anime is like any other media genre (if not even more) in its chronic milk-on-the-popular-idea phenomenon. Truth is, however, I don't like mecha over any other genre, so I really can't explain it. Those old-skoolers are better suited to explain why they like Gigantor so much I guess. To me it just looks old and boring and a waste of my time. Flake: That would require ANN reviewers to be unabashedly fawning over their corporate masters' shiny boots. They don't. Quite frankly I'm around this site pretty much because my opinion usually matches theirs in various less popular series. 'Guess I'm just a corporate sellout. Now where the hell is the money they promised me? Yuri availability: The recent anime expo shows a better trend for yuri consumers, no? Cons: I might go to Sakura-Con sometime if my plan to move to Seattle actually comes to pass. It would be sooo convenient. As of now I couldn't care less about that socialize-with-other-geeks stuff or the whole celebrity craze that makes up anime conventions...not considering the trade-off at least. But man, according to hearsay around this forum this year's Anime Expo is a colossal disaster. |
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ikillchicken
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I always kinda figured the whole Yaoi/Yuri difference was just a result of many more Girls reading romantic manga than Guys. Especially if youre not including actual Hentai in that (which if youre talking about what you find in your average store you wouldnt).
Wow, that was deep. You should be a writer or something Zac. I'm serious, that was really good. ero guro: Eww. I haden't even heard of this until today. Its unpleasant that there is enough of this that it warrants an actual term for it. If you enjoy this stuff, seek help. Cause its probably just a matter of time before you murder someone. |
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zcat68
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When it comes to cons I think it really depends on your social style. I personally think 40,000 people would be really overwhleming, even if you're not all in the same space at the same time. I just went to my first con last fall and it was only about 400 people and I personally had a great time, met lots a new people, and hopefully will be going back again this year. I think the most important thing to know about going to a con, no matter which one you go to is that you get out what you put in, so open your eyes and takes some chances you would have never thought of before, and it will turn out just fine
Although I guess it would be mostly geared towards college students, and I have to guess that would still be a fairly decent number, my question about the whole thing is, why isn't there a second con season after the holidays in that late december-early to mid January window, I mean I know that money is tight, but you're telling me passes to cons around that time wouldn't make great holiday season gifts? I would think they could be well attended too. |
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PantsGoblin
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... ...... ......... I've never known you be sarcastic, so I assume this isn't as much as I want to believe it is ... But... Zac IS a writer. |
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DemonEyesLeo
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@ ranter:
You'll find the answer to your question here. |
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fighterholic
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We'll probably have to show him this to make him believe us. |
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Lady Multi
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Hmm... it really took years for yaoi to truly hit the market. Some of the stuff is older than you would expect it to be (time delay from Japanese to the US)...I read a good bit of what has been released a year to 2 years before teh US release, un. Course Yaoi has its less graphic Shonen-ai stuff that's also being placed into the genre of Yaoi.... Some of those are also older (how old is Earthian again?)
....IMO, most Yuri isn't as well thought out as some Yaoi. Seriously, I won't even read Yaoi if it doesn't have some sort of plot (unless it's Doujinshi and I know the characters' personalities...but that's fandom). Hmm...missing anime series... If the ending is good, why be depressed? Inuyasha anime needs help....that's the one of only series I'm currently upset about, un. ...and I'm upset that Tsubasa Chronicles isn't continuing (duh, people are going to be bored if you DRAG IT OUT! ...and fillers...don't even START...!) ABOUT THE PIC! My kittens are cuter than THAT with the ducks! :3 Mine (3 of 'em) are also ALL named after Naruto characters (Itachi-neko is Fiesty~! grr, ferocious 3wk old little thing  ... I say they're trying to get in character for me :3)
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child of Lilith
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Yeah I'm with you on that. First time I saw some of that stuff I could not understand how any one could get off on that. Sex is fine, but sex, blood, and pain? Not for this guy! I’m not a hardcore misogynist so I’m not into that crap. As for my privies post, I did not really believe that you hated guro. I only brought it up because I was so surprised that you would make such a comparison after all you’ve said about loli. I meant it more in jest then anything else. I apologies for the miss understanding. |
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ikillchicken
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I mean a writer of actual books or something. Isn't Zac better described as an editor? He does write stuff, but for Magazines and ANN. His job is a combination of writing skills plus knowlege of his particular field. Unless he's written something else Im not aware of? I assume thats not what you mean though because you make it sound like its pretty obvious that he's a writer. BTW, I feel the need to point out: I'm actually one of the most sarcastic people you'll ever meet. But I avoid it on forums because its tough to recognise. |
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Xyex
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Yep, just like everyone that goes out to watch horror movies (and then rants and raves about how awesome it was when *insert character*'s blood spurted for several feet) turns into a mass murder. Ugh.
No, Vore's more a sub-section of Guro. Guro really applies to anything 'grotesque'. Vore is much more specific and relates specifically to people being eaten.
That would have been one of Waita Uziga's mangas. Namely True Modern Stories of the Bizarre. Probably the most disturbing thing out there, mostly because of it's real world basis.... Anyway, for the rant: Of course giant robots are popular. What's more awesome than two giant mechs beating the crap out of each other? Oh, right, CONTROLLING a giant mech to beat the crap out of another one. 
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Zac
ANN Executive Editor
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Er, the guys I see online going on and on about "the kills" in movies like Hostel and were upset that there was no brutal murder/rape in The Hills Have Eyes 2 are nearly as creepy as someone who's really in to guro. |
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fighterholic
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Now that was a sick movie right there. I was amazed at how well they portrayed everything to be just so sick as it was, knowing the back country over in Europe I wouldn't be surprised if it was actually happening. |
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ArielTsuki
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Even the infamous 4chan's /a/ board deem it unfappable (and that's kinda serious). I read it out of curiousity and afterwards drowned myself with happy titles because it was very, very distrubing to the point I didn't focus much on the images. @ Yuri shortage: Not enough demand, will not get titles. Although nowadays we seeing a Yuri/GL (girls' love) golden age happening in Japan. There is plans of a yuri anthology coming soon and more. Just keep up with the demands because that's how things are done. Zac, you liked Veronica Mars? I really don't see why people liked it. I lways thought it was an inferior Nancy Drew copy anyway. I watched a few episodes and decided I've seen better and it wasn't for me. |
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Kouga13
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Well I generelly stay away from these sorts of movies they just seem really senstational garbage that doesn't interest me, the closest thing to those that I have seen would be saw 2; it was alright. Also I haven't heard of guro before and I'm thinking ignorance is bliss. That said I kinda agree with Xyex for the sole reason that this feels familiar to the whole video games create killers bull. Off this second hand info thou I'm guessing that it's the extremity that changes the rule but with that it means a line must be drawn. Clarification? PS to whoever posted the link to the XLR openner props. EDIT:I want to see that picture 10 seconds later. That was a true rant, enjoyed it more than the previous ones, just remember this it's entertainment it's gotta be fun, everything else is secondary, and we should know that bigger is better, hell we can already wipe life off our entire planet but we still need more. |
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