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GeneralArrow



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PostPosted: Sat Dec 27, 2008 3:52 am Reply with quote
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GeneralArrow wrote:
walw6pK4Alo wrote:
Well, this leaves Eva Rebuild 1.0, Soul Eater, Gankutsuou, and something else. I heard Wakamoto was in this, might be worth checking out for that alone.
Its gona be probably Bamboo Blade or Allison and Lillia. Most likely Bamboo Blade.


Did they ever send C&D's for Alliso & Lillia?

Not that I know of because the site I use still has it up. But its been taken down on CR so the possibility is out there.
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For some reason I think that by the end of 09 only Funi, Bandai and maybe ADV will be around. I mean when was the last time you heard from CP or MB?
Geneon had all sorts of reasons to fail. They ran it like the japanese market. Things such as the $150 box sets that would work in japan just doesn't here. Japanese and american fans have always had very different buying habits and I don't really know if geneon ever fully realized it and treated it the same as their japanese division. Not to mention licensing everything and barely even letting people know about it.

Considering how niche the anime market is it never really took in as much money as many other industries in the first place and most companies were probably used to making things work under a tight budget anyway. Also we don't know how long Funi has been holding these licenses so it's not like they had to buy all of these over the past 2 months or something. They could have had them for a while and decided to announce them all now. That might be especially true if we get quick dvd releases of the new licenses and seeing as they probably brought the dub off geneon for cheap too that reduces the cost so I doubt all of this together cost more then 5 new triple A titles or anything. (Except Eva. Something tells me that cost a lot)
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 27, 2008 4:12 am Reply with quote
So, um, is anyone else just explosively happy that this got licensed? 'Cause I am.

-gives FUNi a huge hug- And there's another Mizushima-directed series I'd really like y'all to rescue-license even more than this one, if you know what I mean. -cough-
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 27, 2008 4:18 am Reply with quote
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I'm sure that FUNi is perfectly aware of the current global economic situation as they purchase these licenses. Assuming that they're taking some sort of "huge risk" here would imply that they're utterly clueless about how to run a business...


Well, DBZ was a fluke, and they've been using it as collateral ever since.

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They obviously feel secure enough in their financial position to be able to acquire these licenses (and seeing how several of them are former Geneon titles, I'm guessing that FUNi was able to pick them up on the cheap)


It doesn't matter if they're cheap, if there are too many of them on the shelves, and only a few of them actually sell.

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Who the hell in their right mind would pay up to $150 for a whole 26-episode series?


The price was actually reasonable at the time. Hell, only a few months ago, HBO actually thought the old Get Smart show was worth $200 for all five seasons. The problem with Geneon was that they took forever to lower prices as demand increased for their shows.

zanarkand:
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I mean when was the last time you heard from CP or MB?


CPM's in a coma and/or a legal dispute with some yaoi publisher. MB is selling live-action, with occasional niche comedy and hentai bshows in-between.

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Considering how niche the anime market is it never really took in as much money as many other industries in the first place


It took in more money than most non-Dixar animation, at least.
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Were you trying to take a jab against Pixar, there? No offense, I happen to like their stuff.
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 27, 2008 4:24 am Reply with quote
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(Except Eva. Something tells me that cost a lot)

I speculate that the Eva licensing cost equals all the others put together, and is worth every penny Smile

Until we see otherwise, Funi was the one that didn't screw up and fail, right? I bought those FMA sets as soon as they came out. That packaging is a primary key to their success, and all the Geneon titles will get the same treatment. The streaming model is hitting the non-buyer demographic primarily and generating some revenue. The industry is finally convinced of the differences in the market, not to mention the end of the boom, and has simply accepted a different licensing model--that's my opinion. We may even see as many titles on DVD as before, but at prices that sell, which expands the market more. And due to Net generational changes, streaming will likely take the role that TV does in Japan--getting people to buy more DVDs.
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Good points, parker, but I hope they don't fall into the same trap as CPM and ADV and licensing everything under the sun, including the sludge that was animated and scripted by trained monkeys.

I like anime, but we seriously don't need everything from Japan (especially some of the hentai and lower-quality OVAs they've crapped out).


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More like they they take in less money then disney/pixar but more then a lot of other companies.
I also think Eva is worth the money and I'm sure Funi feels that way too because it's going to guarantee them many sales.
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 27, 2008 4:28 am Reply with quote
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More like they they take in less money then disney/pixar but more then a lot of other companies.
I also think Eva is worth the money and I'm sure Funi feels that way too because it's going to guarantee them many sales.


From one Eva fan to another: is MORE of the greatest ROBOT ANIME EVAR!!111!111!!!one ever a bad thing regardless of who licenses it? Razz
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 27, 2008 4:30 am Reply with quote
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For some reason I think that by the end of 09 only Funi, Bandai and maybe ADV will be around. I mean when was the last time you heard from CP or MB?
Geneon had all sorts of reasons to fail. They ran it like the japanese market. Things such as the $150 box sets that would work in japan just doesn't here. Japanese and american fans have always had very different buying habits and I don't really know if geneon ever fully realized it and treated it the same as their japanese division. Not to mention licensing everything and barely even letting people know about it.


did you forget about Viz?
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Unit 03.5-ish wrote:
Good points, parker, but I hope they don't fall into the same trap as CPM and ADV and licensing everything under the sun, including the sludge that was animated and scripted by trained monkeys.

I like anime, but we seriously don't need everything from Japan (especially some of the hentai and lower-quality OVAs they've crapped out).


Hentai is the one thing that pisses me off the most. It's always sold in the worst possible ways, usually 1 episode per DVD for basically the Japanese price. Who the hell would want to buy it then? But I guess they have to keep the prices high, because people just aren't accustomed to paying for porn. Really, I have no idea how hentai licensors keep that business profitable, if at all. And the worst is that they change nearly every single title of the works to something stupid and generic like Summer Sluts, when the original title made sense for the show.

zanarkand princess wrote:
More like they they take in less money then disney/pixar but more then a lot of other companies.
I also think Eva is worth the money and I'm sure Funi feels that way too because it's going to guarantee them many sales.


And yeah. Eva Rebuild 1.0 will probably have a normal and special edition (with all the bells and whistles) and it already has the huge franchise to rely on. That and, when you buy an anime movie, you know you're usually getting better quality than a TV show, and it's only one DVD purchase compared to several. It'll easily outsell most of these other titles.
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 27, 2008 4:38 am Reply with quote
Unit 03.5-ish wrote:
Good points, parker, but I hope they don't fall into the same trap as CPM and ADV and licensing everything under the sun, including the sludge that was animated and scripted by trained monkeys.

Well, I don't think monkeys were involved in any anime that I have seen, at least in creating it...

That said, Funi has done well, and now has the benefit of some very recent and sobering industry experience. I expect them to capitalize on their gains as well as that experience. In every crash, there are winners as well as losers, and they are on the happy side of this one.
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 27, 2008 4:48 am Reply with quote
Unit: That was just my lazy way of combining Disney and Pixar. Laughing

As for Eva 1.0, if ADV didn't think EoE was worth the cost, I don't see why FUNimation should bother with the new one, especially since it's basically a remake of Death and Rebirth. Rolling Eyes Besides, when it comes to mecha, the current generation of fans is into Geass and all the Gundam shows from the last decade or so. Eva's to them what the Astro Boy stuff was to Macross/Robotech fans-old hat.
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Now regarding all these licenses, in my opinion, where is Funimation getting all this revenue to even PAY for these licenses now? Rescuing Geneon titles I can understand but new ones too in this terrible economy?

It's called the licenses to print money known as DB/DBZ/DBGT. Also a bunch of other series that do well and controlling 50% of the market helps.
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Kit-Tsukasa wrote:

Not to mention that Bleach destroys Gintama, especially now...that's actually what's hurting Gintama's ratings in Japan. Gintama wants to be the comedy for Bleach, but it really isn't cutting it. Maybe back when Gintama first started and Bleach was doing the Bount arc, but definitely not now during Hueco Mundo.


'Destroys' Gintama? Have you seen Gintama's DVD sales in Japan? They're on ANN pretty frequently...and I've rarely seen Bleach overtake Gintama in units sold. Sure Bleach may destroy it in ratings, but DVD sales are the golden rule...and in that department Gintama slays Bleach.

You are comparing two series with different priorities. One is made with the purpose of selling DVDs (Gintama) and another where DVDs aren't the top priority (Bleach). Not exactly apples and oranges but apples and pears or something.
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 27, 2008 5:01 am Reply with quote
Unit 03.5-ish wrote:
zanarkand princess wrote:
More like they they take in less money then disney/pixar but more then a lot of other companies.
I also think Eva is worth the money and I'm sure Funi feels that way too because it's going to guarantee them many sales.


From one Eva fan to another: is MORE of the greatest ROBOT ANIME EVAR!!111!111!!!one ever a bad thing regardless of who licenses it? Razz

No it never is. I'll be testing how much I'm willing to pay when the inevitable special edition comes out because lord knows I want it. As you said BEST ROBOT ANIME EVAR!


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Eva's to them what the Astro Boy stuff was to Macross/Robotech fans-old hat.

No it is not simply because the newer series have spend all of their time trying to be eva and some showing it more then others (E7)
plus I'm a part of the younger generation. Eva is something of a rite of passage for an anime fan anyway. I literally started watching anime when I was three though so I guess that exposed me to some of the older stuff early for me to feel nostalgic about it.

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did you forget about Viz?

Actually I did. I think it's because I see them as kind of mainstream with Naruto and Bleach. Deathnote even seem to be popular with the wannabe dark and damaged kids who probably haven't even seen or read it and that just makes me Rolling Eyes
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