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NEWS: Tokyo's Youth Healthy Development Council Looks at To Love-Ru Darkness


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UtenaAnthy



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PostPosted: Sun Jun 03, 2012 6:46 am Reply with quote
configspace wrote:
Just to remind people. It's NOT the nudity people are assuming that the bill is concerned about, it's the subject matter

Again, if it portrays something like a casual acceptance of incest, or actual sexual relationships between high school students, THEN it gets the ban hammer (yes the effect is nearly the same since it's removed then must be republished differently which most publishers have not done, e.g. Aki Sora and a few others)

Recall that Oku-sama wa Shōgakusei, non-graphic, non-explicit gag manga got affected


relentlessflame wrote:
configspace wrote:
Yeah, I would also bet that bill 156 would affect any manga that say, portrays people under 20 drinking or smoking, like for example not as something "bad" or illegal, but as something "ok" or acceptable, as it is in several countries; or likewise I bet the bill would affect any manga advocating drug legalization; likewise for prostitution, etc

And as was discussed at the time, in a way that's a lot more sinister, because it's in effect telling artists not to publish any works accessible to children that challenge the government's view of moral norms, regardless of whether the work is tasteful, thoughtful, well-considered, or artistic. If it's just about "filth" (as many such laws are), that's actually easier; here you could say that it's more about controlling/directing thought. The concern seems to be that children may grow up to have beliefs that go against their own. But this is rather consistent with the age divide in Japan, and the seemingly-common view that youth are corrupt because they don't conform to traditional Japanese moral values. Tough times ahead...


Yeah, I mean, would something like Mars be affected, for instance (Kira and Rei have a sexual relationship)? And I'm still concerned about the possibility of this bill being used to restrict access to works which portray LGBT characters in a positive, accepting, affirming manner. Even if it's not used for that, I don't agree with the bill because I agree that it's worrying for the government to be trying to exert control like this over the exposure of children to works which question/oppose the government's stance on what's moral/what the law should be. I'm very much committed to children recieving a better education than just whatever their parents believe, this isn't about "parental rights", it's about the child's right to free access to information and to not be restricted to whatever their parents/religious groups or the government thinks they should be allowed to hear, read and see.
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dandelion_rose



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PostPosted: Sun Jun 03, 2012 7:21 am Reply with quote
I think you all are over analyzing this. In my experience censorship bodies are barely consistent, often exist to push someone's political interest, and just want to be around so they can show off and be in charge. You know, like that crappy new middle management guy who comes into the office just to bark a useless order or two.

The fact that it's all vaguely worded is done for a reason. Anything they don't like they can cut off, as long as there's no backlash.

Anyway I just wanted to say that I'm reading Aki Sora and I like it. It is smutty sentimentality -- the kind of stuff you get in paperback novels where it's wall-to-wall sex and emotional angst -- and it's pretty good at that. Shame that it's going to be out of run soon.
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Flower Metal



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PostPosted: Sun Jun 03, 2012 10:00 am Reply with quote
Ecchi Anime will exist forever
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 03, 2012 2:43 pm Reply with quote
This is why you hide your pornz better.Laughing
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Mohawk52



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PostPosted: Sun Jun 03, 2012 2:45 pm Reply with quote
Ryu Shoji wrote:
I like the series, but more importantly, I really like Kentaro Yabuki's art style. I do want to support To Love Ru, but as others have said, Viz Media wouldn't touch it with a barge pole. However, on the flip side I don't want The Daily Mail to brand me a paedophile either.
Too late. We're all paedos to the Daily Fail, but who cares what they think anyway.
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Xanas



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PostPosted: Sun Jun 03, 2012 4:56 pm Reply with quote
dandelion_rose wrote:
I think you all are over analyzing this. In my experience censorship bodies are barely consistent, often exist to push someone's political interest, and just want to be around so they can show off and be in charge. You know, like that crappy new middle management guy who comes into the office just to bark a useless order or two.

The fact that it's all vaguely worded is done for a reason. Anything they don't like they can cut off, as long as there's no backlash.

You poked fun at us anarchists for a bit earlier but you're not that far from us on seeing these things as they are.
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dandelion_rose



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PostPosted: Sun Jun 03, 2012 5:42 pm Reply with quote
Xanas wrote:
dandelion_rose wrote:
I think you all are over analyzing this. In my experience censorship bodies are barely consistent, often exist to push someone's political interest, and just want to be around so they can show off and be in charge. You know, like that crappy new middle management guy who comes into the office just to bark a useless order or two.

The fact that it's all vaguely worded is done for a reason. Anything they don't like they can cut off, as long as there's no backlash.

You poked fun at us anarchists for a bit earlier but you're not that far from us on seeing these things as they are.


Don't know if I was 'poking fun', but one of my friends is an anarchist. Squats in places and all that. He scares me a bit, but I wish I had half his courage and conviction.

(yay, I'm going off topic again!)
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Xanas



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PostPosted: Sun Jun 03, 2012 8:06 pm Reply with quote
No problem, it's my fault for making assumptions.
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Nineofclubs



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PostPosted: Mon Jun 04, 2012 1:20 pm Reply with quote
"in other news, to love ru sales are up!"
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