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Parsifal24
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There's a lot of sereis I dont like but I would never make anyone feel bad about likeing it heavn know's I get enough greif from some people for likeing Strike Witches.
I think when it becomes eltiest is when instead of saying a show is stupid people start saying your'e stupid for likeing it also I think if your a fan of Anime or Manga their will (hopefully) be some growth latter on. I know I still dont watch the stuff from when I was a teen but I dont look down on people who are djust getting into it if that's what their watching we all have to start some where I guess also I think we need too realize it's just Manga and Anime we just need to know when to just chill out. |
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Animehermit
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I seem to recall Y: The Last Man being pretty mainstream, what with the talk of adapting it into a HBO tv series. and that has nothing to do with super-heroes and while were on the subject theres lots of really great super hero comics out there if you look hard enough. Don't forget that Watchmen is a superhero comic 
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RestLessone
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I love Watchmen. Even as someone who enjoys superhero comics and related media, Watchmen breaks several molds and provides an entirely different look at "superheroes." Though Manhattan is the only truly 'super' cast member; the rest are more like Bruce Wayne: regular humans with resources or will. In any case, there are several awesome American comics that have nothing to do with superheroes. I used to think there wasn't much variety, but some research proved otherwise and opened up a whole new world. (Granted, research is an overstatement; it's really quite easy.) I'm quick to recommend Beasts of Burden and, though I haven't read it, I've heard Maus is excellent. |
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mdo7
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I guess you never read DMZ from DC Comic, it's probably one of the few non-superheroes comic that has a good storyline on the same level as a manga. Oh, and read Danger Girl, the comic is like an ecchi manga but with a American taste. Edit: Oh yeah, I forgot that you live in Eastern Europe DmonHiro, American Comic book never got release in Eastern Europe because of 30 years of communist repression until 1989. That's why you never read a comic book from US or anywhere from other part of the country. Last edited by mdo7 on Sun Feb 20, 2011 2:37 pm; edited 2 times in total |
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ikillchicken
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Yeah, I never said that wasn't the case. |
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rojse
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From someone who has actually read it, Maus is excellent. It's the twin story of Germany and the Jews as the Holocaust approached and passed, and the latter story of how people cope, having lived through such a trying ordeal. The artwork is quite interesting - the first thing is that it is drawn in a really messy style, but I think it works quite well in depicting the bleak horrors of the concentration camps and gas chambers. The second point of note is that each different group and race are drawn as animals - the Jews are drawn as mice, and the Germans are drawn as cats. It sounds odd, but somehow, it works. It's also quite a mainstream work - it's won a slew of awards, including a special Pulitzer Prize (can a book get much bigger than being awarded a Pulitzer?), but even without considering all of that, I still think it's a rather good story. And there's no superheroes or capes to be seen, either. |
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Animehermit
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that part wasn't really in response to you but more responding to DmonHiro's post and general thread discussion. |
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UtenaAnthy
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The lack of macho-ness isn't a problem though. As a feminist, I have no issue with guys liking frilly dresses and sparkles and pink. On the topic of 'merkin komix vs. manga cartoons* - There's plenty of diversity in both, though manga has the added hurdle in English speaking markets that only a fraction of it is available legally in English, so unless someone speaks Japanese and English/visits scanlation sites, they'll only know those manga titles which have been officially translated, and even scanlation sites often focus on translating cookiecutter titles (not to mention the numerous sites that get most of their hits from uploading titles that are readily available in English legally, I am NOT trying to start a piracy debate, more making a point about popularity and which titles get major marketing pushes). I'm not averse to superhero comics, though I've spent a lot more time watching animated works based on them than on reading the comics themselves. Honestly, while I love comics, I don't spend all that much time reading them because I get distracted by message boards (dammit), so I can't comment in great depth on the subject. As many others have said, it (this discussion) in part depends on your definition of "mainstream". I've actually been trying to check out more european comics lately, looking into publishers such as Cinebook, I don't know if anyone has any comment on those. *that second one was something someone said about Tokyo Godfathers, asserting that some people might not want to see it because of that when I bought it to a film night at an aspergers group (note that the person who said that does not have aspergers so far as I know, they just help run the group, before someone jumps in to blame their ignorance on autism) in the end we watched Fantastic Mr. Fox, which I brought as well, though Tokyo Godfathers actually managed to get a decent number of votes, but gosh it annoyed me the way that person was judging it without having seen it just because it's anime, in fairness it has no English dub and some people have difficulties reading subtitles (though when I asked no-one said it was an issue for them), but while they tried to remove it from the voting based on that as well, they were clearly also assuming that just because a film is from japan/originally in Japanese and is animated it won't appeal to... "average" people? Since Tokyo Godfathers is one of the best works of moving image media I have ever seen, that attitude irritated me immensely. |
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Youkai Warrior
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I found the first question interesting, as I have seen that type of behavior and I hate it. Although Brian says it happens in other fandoms, I believe it, I just haven't seen it yet. Maybe be more specific.
Anyway, to the person who asked the question about the "snobby elitist I'm better than you cause I watch this anime" question: Don't listen to them. They live in their own little world. I really hate it when I run into a supposedly "elite anime fan" because they saw like, 100 or more anime, and are basically "that person who's seen it all" and you cannot challenge them because they will school you.  I've got my small amount of anime, and I'm fine (and proud) of it. So don't listen to those people, you obviously have a life and they don't if they've seen that many anime. 
I do have to agree with you on this, samulep. I don't think anyone has to watch over 100 or more anime, but it's true that when you broaden your horizons, you will have more knowledge about anime.
Naruto might not be that great, but I wouldn't put it on the same level as Justin Bieber and Twilight. And the Twilight books are trashy as well as the movies.
I'm not sure I like Naruto either, and I agree that I find it strange that it beats One Piece in the American market. However, you are right about Naruto, it has a much more broad appeal, whereas Justin Bieber and Twilight are primarily for girls. (Though there are a lot of girls who dislike both.) I wouldn't generalize though and say that there are some gays and goth boyfriends pinging the male demograph. I'm sure there may be some gays, but there are many who have scoffed at Twilight at least. (Not trying to get off topic, but I actually found Twilight to be anti-gay, and the author Stephanie Meyer donated money from her books to Preposition 8, because she is against gay marriage. ) Maybe some goth boyfriends like one or the other or both, and if that's the case, they're not real goths.  In the end, I don't believe Naruto should be compared to either of those annoying and crappy fads, as I too think it does have redeeming quality.
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enurtsol
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Anything has redeeming quality............... to their fans. |
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marcos torres toledo
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DC conics origionally AC action comics DC origionally detective comics I have through the years know of science fiction, mystery comics, western comics, fantsay comics and comedy comics the afor mention Archie being one of them. So there has always been a wide vairaty of American comics as for anime try beside Death Note, Monster mystery anime base on manga. The anime Your Under Arrest, Golden Boy and other anime including adult anime, manga sex comics it's always been many types of comics and before I forget Illistrated Classics. Part of the problem is comics have been underrated and put down thru the years they have proven a very flexable medium not to be underestimated.
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