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Alexander55
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Both are true but under a different perspective. The LDP wanted to remain in power for a couple of decades hence why they probably pulled this stuff. Despite the multiple political parties that exist in Japan, it has mostly been ruled as a one-party system under the conservative LDP since WW2 uncontested before the DPJ usurped them in 2009. After 2012 however, thanks to a few incompetent leaders, Japan once again, succumbed to the rule of the LDP. How many decades will Japan be ruled by them again remains to be seen. Oddly enough, the LDP have not considered censoring Anime and Manga during their lengthily tenure until recently. This is most likely do the fact that they were probably interrupted by their glorious rule by the DPJ in 2009 and don't want that to happen again, so by appealing to the sheeple and the nationalists, they will remain in office. Hence comes the 2020 Olympics on the way. Appealing to social conservatives amongst their populace and amongst the assembly(since there are other conservatives in the assembly who serve as valuable allies so that the LDP influence is uncontested) is also important to the LDP, hence why they want to regulate Anime and Manga. Although there is international pressure from far-left feminists such as UNICEF's Agnes Chan, the conservative LDP is largely responsible for pushing this. In the end, its all about politics and I rather not dig deeper in the issue. This is for the Japanese to decide and not us. |
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Shadowrun20XX
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Comiket will definitely go underground and become even worse, especially if they are trying to fine the userbase for possession. Ugly.
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GATSU
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Alexander:
Actually, they technically lobbied for the nomination. And their athletes did pretty well last year, which is a factor in how the IOC picks venues.
The LDP succeeded in turning around Japan's image as a radiation danger zone, while the DPJ just took kickbacks from TEPCO.
More like if the Chinese didn't bootleg its neighbor's media, and actually paid for it, instead of just making propaganda movies with Christian Bale, the Japanese would have long been out of a recession by now. Amiantos:
I don't think their government is that smart.
Yes, because the people of Japan just love to have their entire country associated with underage cartoon porn. Don't blame the otaku who have exploited and pissed on the medium, while basically forcing animators into doing effing telethons on Kickstarter. |
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configspace
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@GATSU Not only do you lack principle to stand on, your entire argument is bullshit. No one is forcing anything. AT ALL. How then do you explain all the other titles that get produced and have constantly been produced? You only concentrate on a handful of titles out of 140+ a year.
How do you explain this Japanese poll: animenewsnetwork.com/interest/2013-09-04/biglobe-poll/most-anticipated-fall-2013-anime with (1) Magi S2, (2) Kuroko S2, (3) Valverave S2, (4) Little Busters Refrain (5) Gingitsune (6) Ore no Nōnai Sentakushi ga, Gakuen Love Come o Zenryoku de Jama Shiteiru (7) Unbreakable Machine-Doll (8) Kill la Kill (9) Ace of Diamond -- out of 47 upcoming shows for fall? Hell, did you even realize there were 47 shows in the season? Those top shows with a second season already destroys your argument and they don't even have a US market! One can even ask why sports and sports-like anime are continuously produced (see Chihayafuru and upcoming Ace of Diamond) when there's no market in the west, even with Funi explicitly saying so? Besides, you assume too much. You think the west is a monolithic bunch. What about the rest of us who don't agree with you? As an example of how tastes crosses borders, defying assumptions about regions, even Shawne Kleckner of Rightstuf says the hardcore porn ("really nasty stuff") sells much better than the plain vanilla porn. The LDP and DPJ are scumbags, with perhaps the LDP being a bit worse. Their economy is in ruins because they keep interfering, just like they keep interfering with social policy. Keynesian Abenomics isn't working and even he's starting to realize that. The increase in sales taxes is also bad news. Anyways, more on Dan Kanemitsu's article:
He cites a recent editorial by Ashita no Joe's artist, Tetsuya Chiba and wrote about what Japan did for the 1964 Olympics:
There is evidence to worry from recent events: http://m.news-postseven.com/archives/20130907_209051.html
And:
They need to stop caving into foreign pressure. They need to stop worrying about saving face. And they also need to stop with the Cool Japan bullshit (and this is where I strongly disagree with folks like Danny Choo). It's more government management of culture, which simply provides them more incentive to mold the currently diverse culture of anime/manga/doujinshi/games into one homogeneous mass Last edited by configspace on Sat Sep 14, 2013 8:42 pm; edited 3 times in total |
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mangamuscle
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Hear! Hear! Have people already forgotten all the damage censorship done by the comic code authority did to american comics? Nowadays you can't just walk into any bookstore and get the "mainstream" comics you want, even after all the big hollywood blockbusters of late, you have to go to a specialty store, imagine that happening in japan, that you had to go right to akiba or order by internet the latest sunday shonen comic because no store carries them anymore. |
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GATSU
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configspace:
If you mean recent non-moe, probably luck and tenacity.
I occasionally look at schedules over there, and moe is at least half of that 120.
Their economy has declined, but it's not in ruins. And the only reason that happened is because they became too dependent on domestic industry, while being averse to international business investors and collaborations. Clearly, they see the error of their ways, and are trying to turn things around.
So how do you expect the country to pay for services for its aging population?
Ok, but now they have an entire generation of young people who are becoming practically homeless there, due to part-time service jobs which do not pay the bills. [You know, like us.] So having the Olympics there is a shot in the arm for them, because businesses will maybe want to hire more full timers to better welcome non-Japanese tourists. Meanwhile, the only thing the otaku can do is complain while sponging off their parents.
Boo-f**king-hoo. No print porn for a few days. They'll just get it on the Internet like the rest of the world. As for the whole strip club thing, Giuliani purged similar shit in New York, and no one's being stifled by that. |
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kanjineogeo
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Seems another blackout like it did with against SOPA is likely going to happen.
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lostrune
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While the displacement of Comiket will be disappointing, there are still plenty other doujin events in Japan round year. Comiket is just one of many conventions for doujinshi... The biggest. sure, but with all those other conventions and online retailers, you don't have to worry about not getting your porn.
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fencer_x
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You do realize where the largest of those other events are all held, right? Haru Comic City - Tokyo Big Sight Super Comic City - Tokyo Big Sight Comic City Spark - Tokyo Big Sight The three largest events outside of Comiket are ALSO all still at Big Sight. Comiket won't be the only huge event affected by having to move. |
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configspace
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@GATSU: see my updated post above. You haven't taken a closer look or you're being dishonest. You also seem to be conflating either intentionally or not, moe and fanservice. You also don't see how BAD some of the shows you complain about do. Luck and tenacity also doesn't dictate business decisions year after year. The whole point is this: there's no magic formula. If X always did well, the market would be nothing but it. But obviously it's not. Not even close nor half.
As for the rest of your arguments, like I've said, you've got no principles. Only your own feelings, subjective opinions to go on, as in "I don't like it, so screw other people, that's the way it should be!"
No. They have always had interest by foreign investors especially when previously a few years ago the yen was worth more. Do you remember the exchange rates? Prior to the BOJ's inflation of the yen (pressured by Abe), Japan was where foreign investors wanted to park their money it. Now a lot of foreign capital has fled Japan. They are in fact, attempting doing the OPPOSITE of what you propose. They are inflating the yen (and buying up assets and trying to pump up Japanese stocks) in order to artificially boost the domestic industry by devaluing the yen (inflating the money) to make their exports cheaper! Many think it's good, but it's not.
No welfare. But the government could have had a private savings and investment mechanism long ago (perhaps incentivized). In any case, you can't fix this overnight, it would have to be a transition.
This is again, due to interference. And who you think is paying for the Olympics? They are almost all money loosing propositions. And any hiring will be temporary.
It won't just be for "a few days", more like many decades like the effects of the 1964 Olympics had, if not a permanent change. And he's also talking about non-adult magazines that like European magazines feature erotic or risque things. Even more critical are the changes instituted in criminal law about broadening their rules for obscenity, previously just a very nominal censoring of genitalia (now as a result of the Olympics, potentially at least more censoring). As far as the closure of the decades old strip club, first, as I said: you've got no principles. Why is it ok to close this particular business down in that area, just to try to save face or prevent offending IOC sensibilities? Pure popularism or utilitarianism whether domestic or foreign is unethical. Contrast that with how Brazil is handling the world cup, or allowing various businesses to handle it: Brazilian prostitutes learn English for FIFA world cup 2014 (video) This is actually a large organization representing the sex workers organizing this, and Brazil isn't panicing to shut them down Oh yeah, and Giuliani is another wretched scumbag (and so is Bloomberg). |
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Rederoin
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You completely missed the point of my post. My point is that the market only gives a fudge about the people who buy the Japanese BD's/DVD's, they are not a charity, even though you seem to think they are.
49* if you include tv specials(Lupin and Pokémon : The orgin)
The best thing about people using the word moe to describe shows, as in calling them moe shows, is that you just know that everything they say is complete bullshit. Aside from the people who hate those so called 'moe shows'. nobody has any idea what the hell they are referring too. Is it some kind of code-word among your kind? I've never been be-able to figure out what it actually stands for. Maybe they think moe means cute?(it does not). But then why not just refer to them as cutesy shows? Moe is a feeling, a subjective feeling. It can also be applied to male characters(kaiji, speedwagon, fake Akagi etc..) and objects. So you're either talking about shows with a moe character, including kaiji, jojo's bizarre adventure etc.., cutesy shows, or its just something you use to refer to shows you dislike. |
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GATSU
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configspace:
Because it's one and the same, nowadays.
They mass-merchandise Blu-Rays, DVDs, CDs, pillows, and statues for 'em. So if they're doing badly, why are they still funded?
It does for at least a significant chunk of the year.
It doesn't have to do well. It just has to sell enough overpriced copies to enough of the same people to call it a "hit". [See record companies and concert tickets.]
You mean the same foreign investors who complained about their awful trade laws and tariffs?
They probably were planning to leave Japan, anyway, so they can opt for an Asian country with sweatshops and horrible building codes.
So it's better to stick with prices so high that even the Japanese can't afford a decent standard of living there?
Yeah, that really worked out for us over here, where no one can effing retire, because Wall Street bet our savings on derivatives.
I don't know any sporting event which loses money.
It's probably ok, if the only people visiting those places are likely to be junkies and gang-members.
Brazil's a gentrified ghetto, dude. No one should be using them as an economic model.
So Brazil's just basically saying,"Who cares if any of the soccer players get the clap or AIDS? All that matters is our hookers are bilingual." rederoin:
That seems to be changing, given the population decline and the fact that the otaku once again prevent animation studios from actually making a living off of original or mainstream works.
Here you go. NSFW. |
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Shii
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btw the ldp is in power because a majority of japanese people like them and vote for them
not everyone's vision of a healthy society is raging against the machine like your teenage fantasies. hope this helps |
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Daemonblue
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A majority would imply they would get 51% or more of the vote,. which they don't. Unlike America, there are more than two parties, so they can hold more power than other parties while not having an actual majority. Now, having said that, they "fix" this issue by making alliances with other parties regarding some subjects, but it's not as if anything they want to pass absolutely will with no way to fight against it at all. |
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Guile
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I am unsure why you would say this. This sounds to me, correct me if I'm wrong, that you are asserting there is no original or mainstream anime being produced. This is quite false.. one needs to only look at the highest rated anime every week to see dozens of mainstream anime. Mainstream anime is alive and well and providing numerous animation studios with a means to make a living, from original works such as Pretty Cure and Jewelpet to mainstream manga adaptions such as One Piece, Naruto, Hunter x Hunter, and Magi, to mainstream video game adaptions such as Gyrozetter and the upcoming Youkai Watch and Gaist Crusher. In actuality there are dozens of mainstream anime being produced at a time and turning a profit for studios and marketers. There is more than one market when to comes to anime and not a monopoly of otaku oriented shows where only shows like Sword Art Online and Bakemonogatari are made as you seem to be claiming. |
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