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DuskyPredator
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Even if Yoshino wanted to help the plan of Aki getting close to Masamune, it does not explain why she got her into a costume to purely make her embarrassed enough to cry. Well she seemed to enjoy being called "master" and said she was having fun, so I am thinking it is not just humility but herself playing around. And Aki also seems especially weak to horror movies, even that one which got weird towards the end.
I am not going to try and search to find out if there is..... I mean it, morbid curiosity is not going to make me do it. No, I am not going to do it! |
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Chiibi
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Yoshino may not have predicted Aki would react that strongly. She certainly didn't predict Aki would provide a lap pillow for Makabe. :'DDD
*snort* You know you wanna. 
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Raftina
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Yoshino predicting that Aki would be embarrassed enough to cry would require that she:
1. predict that Aki would find out during the date and 2. predict Aki's reaction. The first is a fairly probably event, between potential observers who comment and Masamune correcting Aki. The second is a simple matter of knowing Aki's personality, which Yoshino should know very well. By contrast, to predict that Aki would give Masamune a lap pillow would require that she: 1. predict that Masamune would be knocked out and 2. predict that Aki would feel guilty enough to give him a lap pillow. The first is a highly improbable event. |
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DeTroyes
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In episode #2 I thought Yoshino might be seeking some kind of revenge on Aki (being forced to be her maid, possibly without ever being given a choice in the matter, might make one bitter), but episode #3 hints that Yoshino's motivations may actually be more selfless than that. She's certainly shaping up to be the main catalyst pushing Makabe & Aki's "relationship" forward.
As for Aki and Makabe themselves, its pretty obvious the two of them are starting to warm to each other, even tho neither will admit to it. Notice that even when Aki "rejects" Makabe in ep. #2, she does so in a way that's still more private than public (contrast "denied" with the more public humiliation she gave to Shigeo in ep #1). She doesn't actually embarrass him, but instead runs away like she wasn't entirely sure she did the right thing. And later Makabe, even when he knows Yoshino has set Aki up for major embarrassment, elects instead to rescue Aki from it rather than let it continue. Class Rep (can't remember her name) is probably going to be disappointed when it comes to Makabe, but I think she'll find Kojuro a welcome consolation prize. This show is easily in my top three for the season, along with Little Witch Academia and (surprisingly, because it wasn't anywhere on my radar) Youjo Senki. I'm hoping it goes 24-26 episodes and takes us to the end of the manga. Last edited by DeTroyes on Thu Jan 26, 2017 8:03 pm; edited 1 time in total |
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There was also more hints that the past didn't play out the way Masamune remembers it. It's looking very much like there was some misunderstanding between the two that resulted in Aki "rejecting" Pig's Foot but that was based on something he did that hurt her feelings. I'm sure that's where her "boys all lie" attitude comes from. I have to admit that I'm a little surprised at the relatively fast pace that their relationship is unfolding. It's clear even after just 4 eppies that they both have sincere feelings for each other that they are in deep denial over.
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DeTroyes
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The pace probably means we're looking at a 12-13 episode series instead of a 24-26. Which would be disappointing to me but hardly surprising. Unless they throw some real monkey wrenches into the plot in order to stretch it out some more (which you never know; wouldn't be the first time).
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Chiibi
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This episode was excellent as well. First half had me LOLING at Makabe's ridiculousness between taking the shoujo manga as a fail-proof guide and calling Yoshino "SHISHOU!!!" and the second half had me totally invested in Aki's personal feelings.
The way it was supposed to be. It was directed incredibly well.
It's kinda refreshing, isn't it? We're used to just getting teased until the show is almost over. |
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And normally I'm the first person to rail against the typical glacial pace of shojo romance, but in this case I'm not sure speed is actually the right answer. The juice of this particular premise is that Dude is supposed to be trying to get revenge on the "ungettable" girl. But if it becomes obvious too quickly that actually both he and she are actually into it (even if they won't admit), it kinda deflates things. It's like with Twin Exorcists ... Benio and Rokuro were hilarious when they were antagonistic, but now that they are actually both onside ... eh, a lot of the "zip" has gone out of their personal dynamic.
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Treeborn
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It takes a lot of substance to maintain audience interest when the tension and humor of yet-to-be-reciprocated romances are removed, so I'm glad Revenge isn't shooting itself in the foot by allowing that to happen early on. That, and I'm still hoping Yoshino ends up the winning girl (OK, that's my last time saying that, I swear!). I just love me some Yoshino.
The episode itself, again, I found good. We're getting a look past Akis exterior, and, unsurprisingly, she's holding some unresolved traumas. Of course, it was absolutely plainly obvious from the beginning that she wouldn't be cruel just for the sake of being cruel. Really don't understand the hate people had towards this in the beginning, but whatever. To each their own. Only thing I didn't like was Nekos introduction. Yeeeshhh was that forced 
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DuskyPredator
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I was wondering how could some stranger suddenly jump him like that as if she knows him, but by the looks of it she is rich, it was mentioned earlier that his father side is rich, so I can see that as something.
I am no master of romance and wooing, but I wonder if his better response for ignoring her would have been to say he thought that he was bothering her, not trying to force a reaction. And looks kind of like she is hung up about something wit him in the past. |
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Stark700
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Hmm, episode 4 felt really shoujo-ish lol. This is the most vulnerable/cutest I've seen from Aki so far.
That new girl though....I think this could get even more complicated. |
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DeTroyes
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Random semi-coherent thoughts about this week’s episode.
We got more hints of why Aki is the way she is, and its pretty much as I expected: she’s cutting herself off from others because she doesn’t want a repeat of a past trauma. She even seems to hold those with whom she’s nominally friends with at arm’s distance. So the fact that she’s now willing to at least venture the possibility of getting closer to someone else is actually a big step forward for her. I think its pretty likely Aki’s past anguish and the Pig’s Foot incident are connected. As for Makabe, I think he’s over-thinking this whole romance thing. He should have just realized he didn’t need to change his tactics, what he was doing was already working quite well. What he really needs is patience; he’s got to know by now that he’s not going to get Aki’s wall to crumble in a few days, and for someone who’s been planning his revenge for EIGHT YEARS, I found this sudden urge to speed things up a tad out of character. Concerning Yoshino, she may actually be the smartest of the three... and the most manipulative. She seems to relish plotting behind the scenes, even if Makabe keeps going off her plans. As for New Girl... you had to know that was coming. In order for Aki to start really crawling out of her self-imposed isolation, someone had to come along and become a serious rival to her.
I like Yoshino, but I don't think she's going to wind up with Makabe. Too much of the series to date (story direction, foreshadowing, heck even the opening credits) pretty much shouts that Makabe and Aki will wind up together; the only thing left is to find out how it happens, with all the ups, downs, and misdirections that journey will entail. Not ruling out Yoshino hooking up with one of the other guys, tho. Side thought: I just read the new "Anime Now!" post about this show ("I Love Watching the Characters of Masamune-kun’s Revenge Destroy Each Other"). Err, is that person watching the same show I am? |
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Treeborn
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In anime, it does seem pretty unlikely Yoshino will win. Idk much about Japanese media, but, in American media, these sort of situations tend to play out rather similarly:
Guy: I need to have this girl ( reason will vary) Girl: I relate to you, or empathize, somehow, so I'll help you get her Story progresses Girl: What are you doing here?? You had her! Guy: Yes, but I realized its you I wanted all along I've seen a bunch of stories play out like that, American Pie being the one that immediately comes to mind, for some reason. So, I'm not ruling it out entirely, but I understand the likelihood of Aki. As for the AnimeNow article, I don't read that stuff, but that title doesn't seem fitting for the series haha "Destroy each other"? "Treat each other like garbage"? They're trying really hard over there. |
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Chiibi
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He is....but that's what made it so funny.... cause he is such a stupid dork when it comes to wooing a girl; it's delightful to laugh at his silly ideas and watch him fail.
As expected, I'm AkixMakabe all the way.....guess we will see what this new girl will bring to the table next week.
Oh, it's because Yoshino isn't the main heroine. If this was entirely from her perspective; she would win for sure. (see Toradora) |
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DeTroyes
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Yeah, Toradora is probably the quintessential anime example of that sort of storyline. But then, anyone watching knew from the beginning where that show was going to go.
At this point, the only real question I have is how close to delivering the coup-de-grace on his revenge does Makabe go before he realizes what a big mistake it would be. My guess is that its going to play out one of three ways: 1) He gets almost to the point of doing it, and then realizes he can't because it would break both their hearts. 2) He does it, perhaps half-heartedly, then belatedly realizes its an empty victory and goes all-out to win her back. Or... 3) He doesn't want to do it but for some reason winds up having to, probably because of some machinations by Yoshino and/or others forcing him into it. Four episodes down, eight to go... |
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