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Shiki (TV).

Tris8 wrote:

The Shiki don't want their existence to be discovered. When they attack someone, the victim clearly sees who it is, and in many cases recognizes that that person is supposed to be dead.

Why were the shiki in this tiny town of around 1500 people, where everybody knows everybody else by sight, where someone's death would be widely known, and a risen person would be immediately recognized? Why were they not hiding in the anonymity of a major city, where it's possible to get a regular night job, where they can attack salarymen so drunk that everyone the victims try to talk to and possibly even themselves would think they were hallucinating?

Because Sunako read Muroi's story and decided to take over the village for the shiki. It was, from the very beginning, the shiki's campaign of genocide directed at the village.

Some individuals may deserve some sympathy because of death threats from the Kirishikis, but to allege that the events of Shiki were due to anything other than the shiki's evil plot is preposterous.

Some individuals may deserve some sympathy because of death threats from the Kirishikis, but to allege that the events of Shiki were due to anything other than the shiki's evil plot is preposterous.

Eh, if you want to artificially place a mantle representing 'good' on humanity's side, then yes, the okiagi's actions are "evil". I've already had that discussion way too many times in this thread.

Furthermore, why is Natsuno the only Shiki who ever sided with the humans. I know it should be a minority of Shiki, but am I the only one who finds it a little iffy that in such a close-knit village, only ONE person who turned felt loyalty toward his own kind?

Megiddo wrote:

Eh, if you want to artificially place a mantle representing 'good' on humanity's side, then yes, the okiagi's actions are "evil". I've already had that discussion way too many times in this thread.

As a practical matter, the shiki are much better off blending into a major city and keeping contact with each other with numbers in the dozens rather than establishing an entire shiki village. The original migrants were committing mass murder and forcing the villagers to choose between their own lives and the lives of their former friends and family--all for Sunako's pleasure. I have no hesitation labeling such people as evil, regardless of the alignment of their opponents.

louis6578 wrote:

Furthermore, why is Natsuno the only Shiki who ever sided with the humans. I know it should be a minority of Shiki, but am I the only one who finds it a little iffy that in such a close-knit village, only ONE person who turned felt loyalty toward his own kind?

Based on the behavior of the humans in the last few episodes, the show adopts the stance that humans are bastards. Aside from the urge to drink blood, nothing indicates that being turned to shikis change the underlying human's mentality. Thus, it follows the show's theme that few people would choose their own death to help their former friends.

Also, Natsuno was really the only one who was in a position to help, because he was the only one who turned into a jinrou and thus would not be an easy victim for Tatsumi.

1. A city would have population in the millions. The shiki would not have to attack the same victim, if at all, even if they are dozens. So there would not be some kind of recurring vision of being attacked.

Anyway, I've made my thoughts on this show - and the morally bankrupt people who think it is a tale of grey versus grey - very clear countless times, so I'm not going to take this further.

If I were a shiki I would open up a private blood bank in a large city. Presto, lots of blood without the risks associated with attacking people. Plus my conscience would be clear since no-one had to get hurt.

Why don't the Shiki just attack one person and then instead of constantly attacking and eventually killing the same person, move on to someone else? Tohru doesn't wanna kill anyone? Then he doesn't have to. Yeah, he had to kill Natsuno because of his orders, but why's he angsting so much about killing everyone else?

louis6578 wrote:

Why don't the Shiki just attack one person and then instead of constantly attacking and eventually killing the same person, move on to someone else? Tohru doesn't wanna kill anyone? Then he doesn't have to. Yeah, he had to kill Natsuno because of his orders, but why's he angsting so much about killing everyone else?

Others have already explained that Sunako's plan was to take over the village for the shiki. In the manga, which goes into greater details, it is explained that Sunako did it, because she feels lonely. That's incredibly stupid and selfish reason, but then Sunako is a terrible character that doesn't fit her role.