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NEWS: Nintendo Reports Weak Wii U Sales, Cuts Projections by 2/3rds

It's because of a lack of games that both my fiancee and I are interested in is why we haven't bothered to try and get a Wii U. There's nothing I want to play, and he only wants to play ZombieU. That's honestly not enough to spend $300 on a system. Plus, I have no idea if they make the Wii U compatible with Wii games out of the box or not now, as we don't have the ability to link our systems up to the internet to update it.

Yeah, this is not surprise to me that the Wii U is failing due to the piss poor marking the thing has. From what I've gathered, most people still think it is an add-on for the Wii. This came full circle when my sister (who isn't huge in gaming so she doesn't look at gaming sites) thought the Wii U was an add-on. However, as of yet I haven't seen ANYTHING the PS4 or Xbox One have to offer that will make me go and buy the system, this includes future games too since I've given up hope on the Final Fantasy and Kingdom Hearts series for example.

Plus, I don't think Nintendo can go the route and release a system on par with Microsoft or Sony. They have done that with both the Gamecube and N64 and that didn't help them at all. 3rd Parties will never fully support Nintendo again because they don't believe their games can compare to Nintendo games (let us be honest, some of the best games ever made are done by Nintendo and Nintendo's games can normally stay on the sales charts far longer than most other big budget games). Plus the third parties have been pissing on the Wii U and giving us poor versions of their games (when compared to the 360 & PS3) at full retail price and surprise, it doesn't sell well enough.

However, I can also see that this generation could be the last of console gaming but I also predict that a crash will happen soon starting with the fall of Capcom. Imagine this if you will. What would have happened to Rockstar if GTAV did NOT sell as well as Rockstar had hoped?

To me, I think one of the biggest problems with the Wii U is its library. Other than a few games, there's nothing really that great out for the system.

They need more games that people want, like the new Smash Bros or a new Animal Crossing. The series that really sell for Nintendo; I think those would help push sales in a more positive direction.

It's because of a lack of games that both my fiancee and I are interested in is why we haven't bothered to try and get a Wii U. There's nothing I want to play, and he only wants to play ZombieU. That's honestly not enough to spend $300 on a system. Plus, I have no idea if they make the Wii U compatible with Wii games out of the box or not now, as we don't have the ability to link our systems up to the internet to update it.

Better indie support is one of the PS4's selling points, so Sony's not entirely unprepared for that eventuality.

Well I see nothing wrong with Sony also making things for people who aren't Japanese. Why that's a problem I have no idea.

Polycell wrote:

Better indie support is one of the PS4's selling points, so Sony's not entirely unprepared for that eventuality.

When you say indie support do you mean games like Dragon's Crown and Danganronpa which had ridiculously small budgets or those numerous 10 dollar "retro platformers" all over Steam? If the first then yes, those are nice. If it is the later than I don't have any interest in those games so the PS4 simply being an Ouya isn't going to sell me on it. If gaming does crash and get to the point where Castle Crashers or Super Meat Boy is all that gets made then that's probably when I stop playing games.

Rahxephon91 wrote:

Well I see nothing wrong with Sony also making things for people who aren't Japanese. Why that's a problem I have no idea.

The Japanese and American markets are simply too different. Have you ever heard of the saying "you can please some of the people some of the time, but you can never please all of the people all of the time"? I'm worried they will stretch themselves too thin and implode on themselves. The PS4's social app features are something Japan doesn't care about yet those took development time and money to make which could have been spent better elsewhere. I am just worried, is all.

The Japanese and American markets are simply too different. Have you ever heard of the saying "you can please some of the people some of the time, but you can never please all of the people all of the time"? I'm worried they will stretch themselves too thin and implode on themselves. The PS4's social app features are something Japan doesn't care about yet those took development time and money to make which could have been spent better elsewhere. I am just worried, is all.

This isn't because of any sort of gimmick, hardware limitations, things from the competitors, anything. Its that fact that the WiiU needs some [expletive] GAMES TO COME OUT. Right now there is Mario, and a Zelda port. That's it. People don't get both a PS4 and an Xbone just because they think they have some awesome new features, they just want the exclusive games. It isn't that hard to figure out. For fudge's sake, make a new IP for once. What happened to when the SNES was out and there were new original RPG's and innovative new properties like clockwork? Even the GCN had some incredible gems.

I seriously hope that they aren't going to go mobile-phone based. Have you seen what Square is up to now days? It's a disgrace. You get no loyalty and shit games; just a bunch of people with a shiny new toy that get random apps and waste time with them until 2 years later they realize that it's a waste and they delete them all.

For fudge's sake, make a new IP for once.

Says who? The social media has taken off pretty well in Japan, not sure why PS4's social aspects wouldn't do well. All the streaming things will also go over well with Japanese console gamers. They stream quite a lot of crap. Yeah, I don't really see the problem.

For all this talk about how Japanese gamers don't care for online things like FFXIV, Namco's F2P endeavors, and whatnot have gone over well. Seeing as how PS4 will make it easier for F2P games to come to the system I'm not sure how it's online systems won't work in Japan.

Using Japanese games to prove a point kind of proves my point instead.

Japan didn't care about MMOs until FFXI, and then the next big one for them was FFIV.

World of Warcraft, a global giant who claimed 12 million subs at its peak and has been ripped off numerous times, didn't make any impact whatsoever in Japan.

It took a smaller Japanese MMO to do that. And I don't see how this relate to online services since MMOs use a separate online service than Xbox Live/Playstation plus even in America.

Monster Hunter 3 for the WiiU is online and uses the kinda online Japanese games tend to use like Phantasy Star Online did with 4 player rooms.

Japanese online gaming is pretty different.

As for social aspects, streaming exists in Japan but it's far different than it is here. Nowhere near the kind of e-celeberity worship thing like here. They also pretty much unanimously use Niconico over Twitch or Ustream or whatever PS4 has integrated. Which means they would have to rehaul the entire thing for Japanese preferences which differs from Americans.

You can kinda start seeing the problem with trying to appeal to everyone when you have to change so much between regions to please people

EnigmaticSky wrote:

For fudge's sake, make a new IP for once.

The new IP was one of the worst selling Wii U games, Wonderful 101. I don't think the Nintendo fanbase is one who likes new and innovative franchises.

Rahxephon91 wrote:

I'm not sure why I would chose it over any other system out there

No other system has Nintendo games on it. If someone wants to play Mario, Zelda, Pokemon, Smash, Pikmin, Star Fox, Metroid, Animal Crossing, etc, you buy a Nintendo console. Plus they get the occasional cool third-party exclusive like the Operation Rainfall trilogy on Wii and now X/Bayonetta 2 on WiiU, but thats just a side bonus. Main draw is Nintendo titles

Lavnovice9 wrote:

Rahxephon91 wrote: I'm not sure why I would chose it over any other system out there No other system has Nintendo games on it. If someone wants to play Mario, Zelda, Pokemon, Smash, Pikmin, Star Fox, Metroid, Animal Crossing, etc, you buy a Nintendo console. Plus they get the occasional cool third-party exclusive like the Operation Rainfall trilogy on Wii and now X/Bayonetta 2 on WiiU, but thats just a side bonus. Main draw is Nintendo titles

Which really does highlight the question: Why does it make sense for Nintendo to have their own console? Their bread and butter is their strong, first party software. So sell that software. Don't tie it down by trying to force people to buy a several hundred dollar hardware platform they don't want.