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Charred Knight
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Fullmetal Alchemist Brotherhood was the series that got me interested in animation like that. Such high quality and the best were all well under 30. This is the trailer fore the final release of the bluray and its simply georgeous http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_u045Jilakk Star of Milos is up there as well. Here is the Chimera fight scene I talked about in my first post, the way the wolf Chimera runs at the 53 second mark and the absolute awesomeness that is 1:47+ really made me crave this movie on bluray. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lzNJRtDlPUE |
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Drac
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Have you ever seen the Batman TAS two parter "Feat of Clay"? The first episode has some really bad animation done by a Korean studio that was eventually dropped from the show entirely. The second part features beautiful animation done by Japanese animators. These shows always have different animation teams working on the next episode to get it out on time. |
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NeoStrayCat
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Not even Blazblue: Alter Memory was safe. >_>
(At least the BD/DVD release fixes the Quality! Even though most of the turning point was that. But at least it got better!) :3 Noel and Hazama: http://bit.ly/1a7a4d9 / http://bit.ly/19LifPG "Ice Sword": http://bit.ly/19dGen3 / http://bit.ly/1bpo0ih |
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Zalis116
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I definitely do remember that Yes Pretty Cure 5 scene, as it was in one of the later episodes of the series that I translated. And IIRC, I had some subtitle line wrongly ending just before the end of the scene, so I spent more time looking at that bizarre animation than I would have otherwise.
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Joe Carpenter
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thank you so much Mike for reminding me of Gundoh Musashi, I was thinking about that anime the other day but could not for the life of me remember the name
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Animegomaniac
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Please go look at Bob Clampett's Warner Brothers cartoons from the 1940s and then we can pretend that this post never happened. His cartoons were often off model because of his direction and how he handled his animators and his work resulted in some of the strangest cels you'll ever see {the ones he personally loved were held as "wild takes" such as the eye thing from "Book Review"} before the internet learned to hate itself, ok, before the internet existed to hate itself so he never got all this wonderful feedback. That's one half of animation limitations, strange images linked together for smooth movement, the other half is money. For some reason, I don't find evidence of a studio's lack of funds to be either surprising or all that amusing. So in short: "It looks odd" or worse. There's something I should say about "art", "eyes", "beauty" and "beholder" but I forgot the word order. A lot of these offerings, I had to really study, thinking not so much what's wrong with this screenshot but what's wrong with the viewer. Still, all of this is no excuse for Reign the Conqueror. Or Gilgamesh. Oh, this is just supposed to be about random bits? That's no fun. |
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mewpudding101
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invalidname
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Thing is, I'm not sure calling it a "story digest" is an accurate depiction. In fact, I'm not sure that someone who hadn't watched the series would understand Anohana: the Movie at all, given the fluid way it hops between three time periods (the movie's "one year later" timeframe when the characters are writing letters to Menma and meeting up later at the Secret Base, the timeline of the original series when Menma appeared to Jintan, and the childhood timeline when Menma was alive). 60% seems a high estimate for the reused footage, though I hadn't seen the series in over a year, so maybe things that looked new to me really weren't. Anyways, I think it's hard to describe quite what the movie is up to… outside of JesuOtaku's usual (and accurate) "Hooray, cashgrab!" Menma's POV is an element, yes, but it's certainly not the framing device for the movie. Much more accurate to say the thrust of the film is just catching up with how everyone's doing one year later. Also, if anyone who wants to see it has yet to go (are there any more showings?), here's a tip: stay for the post-credits kicker. Though I guess that's pretty de rigeur nowadays, right? |
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Oraculo
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Very amusing article!
And, um, speaking of "mistakes"... Maybe someone mentioned this already, but it's "walleyed," as in having eyes like a Walleye fish, not "wall-eyed," as in having eyes like a... wall??? Anyway, don't mean to be nit picky, jus' sayin'... |
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jr240483
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i was expecting that as well considering that should have been included in the list. however i didn't see any sign of sloppy scenes or parts that didn't look right during its robotech incarnation. |
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tangytangerine
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Never really knew the animation errors in Birdy the Mighty Decode were that bad, since I've only watched the DVD version Funimation put out.
But doing some digging on Youtube found this. Wow, that is laughably bad animation. |
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Galap
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I'm only responding to this because I think the way this analogy is bad points to the core of the issue here. The analogy is bad because in a book, things like the font and text size are aspects of the substrate of the material: they have nothing to do with the content. In anime, the way the animation looks is part of the content. This matters because a substrate related thing changing around would be distracting, while a content related thing changing around is... just the content changing around. The thing that kind of surprises me is how so few anime fans are really animation fans. I see so many people only really thinking about animation in terms of some kind of 'objective quality' (and arriving at irritating-as-hell descriptors such as "QUALITY"), on a sliding scale from good to bad, where they really only seem to like things that look 'neat' and 'consistent', rather than really giving the visual art much thought. I don't think a lot of fans have a good visual vocabulary, and don't really like to think much about the visuals, which is weird to me because I'd think that a medium that is visual art would draw people that like to think about visuals in a serious way. |
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Zac
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In my head those responses always play out like this: "absolutely perfect this is how a painting is *supposed* to look" "LOL 'QUALITY' " "LOL GARBAGE LOOK HOW BAD THE PAINTING IS" I'm not saying animation mistakes are just different 'kinds' of animation and should be appreciated but when it comes down to actually talking about visual art and aesthetic style in anime the above basically represents 99% of the attitude I see from a whoooooole lot of fans. |
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Roukanken
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You look a bit QUALITY there yourself. I'll just leave this here |
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JonLa
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Great idea for a series of features on basic appreciation of anime/visual vocabulary here. Make it happen ANN! |
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