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-gecko-
Posts: 285 Location: Near Seattle, WA |
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I just can't see someone 'spontaneously' creating a crossdressing cosplay costume without trying to be controversial. I would also point out that we only have one side of the banning story here. Having at least thought about going to this years local convention with my kids (they're both girls) in tow, I really don't think that seeing this guy would scar them for life considering all the others that are out there. It just takes some tactful parental 'splainin' of the ways of the world. Cosplayers are a niche group in our vast anime community. To anyone who is threatened by this, I have only to say that this is only one man, er, Man-Faye. |
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GloriousPikachu
Posts: 84 Location: San Diego |
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Once again, he was just having some fun guys. I'm not a cross dresser or anything, but i've been to a Rocky Horror Picture Show or two and those cross dressers look like they're having a blast. So lets just stop whining about anime's image and fandom and all that nonsense, and just accept that this dude likes to cross dress, and has fun while doing it.
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Abarenbo Shogun
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Some of us are presenting the fact that their are far worse atrocities than Man-Faye. |
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GloriousPikachu
Posts: 84 Location: San Diego |
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I am aware, and I encourage you to continue, I'm speaking to the sections of people angry about the whole ordeal. Forgive me, I should have clarified
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Abarenbo Shogun
Posts: 1573 |
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I think I can understand the hatred of Man-Faye by some. As is with all forms of "Bad cosplay." Let's put it this way: we're engrained on what things should look like. It has to either be perfect, or a damn near carbon copy. I think this is why some of us Anime/Manga fans hate certain cosplays and like others. Some of us can even understand when certain cosplays are pure funny, and some are instant failures. Man-Faye pretty much shatters the sexy look of Faye Valentine with his physique and....."hair." Right now, i'm looking thru iichan's cosplay board, and there are some excellent cosplay, and then there are the ones where you have to go "WHAT THE HELL?!?!" And to be perfectly honest, Americans can't cosplay some characters even if their life depended on it. I'll stop now before I start going into a rant about African-Americans trying to cosplay Japanese Characters. |
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-gecko-
Posts: 285 Location: Near Seattle, WA |
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I don't cosplay myself, but my understanding of it is that it is not so much an attempt to be a perfect image of the chara as much as it is a show of appreciation and devotion to the chara and anime it represents for the fan.
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Jerseymilk
Posts: 157 Location: Wouldn't YOU like to know. |
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It really depends on how seriously you take cosplaying. Some people do it totally for fun and to enjoy dressing as a favourite character or illustrate their fandom for a particular show. Others take it more seriosuly in that they *do* indeed try to emulate the character as closely as possible. They work at everything from as accurate a costume as possible to imitating the character behaviour, body language, poses, etc. And of course there are those that seriously compete at the masquerade competitions. It's also about fun for these types too, but just on a different level. For me personally, yes I do cosplay, the choice of character I cosplay as is decided by whether or not I think I can pull the character off physically-wise first. Obviously I look at characters from series and games I love. But ya I think it helps to somewhat resemble the character at least a bit to pull it off. I also tend to prefer a unique choice, but not always. I just never want to have fifty other people all dressed the same way I am, running around at a con. I think too that there are some people who act like all cosplay is awful looking and only done by "nerdy fanboys/girls", which definitely isn't true. There are some professional costume makers out there who do absolutely "jaw-dropping" work: http://www.limebarbcosplay.com/costumes.html Then of course in Japan you have what are "professional cosplayers". Women that work in "cosplay cafes" or are at conventions, or events and promotions. Comiket, Japan's largest comic book convention also has tons of really impressive cosplayers: http://www.storms-end.com/japanphotos/040813_comiket/ |
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Abarenbo Shogun
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I rather these people don't even attempt this. I am shocked at how many Final Fantasy cosplays have gone totally bad because of this so-called "fandom." Kawaii Kon alone had alot of ugly Yunas from FFX-2. If you like the characters, fine, but unless you can do it within a tolerable ammount of accuracy, or do it as an intentional joke, don't, just don't cosplay.
Unfortunately, I also have a gripe about this as well. There are some whom accurately cosplay, but are complete nutcases. I had the unfortunate opportunity to be witness to one Aeris cosplayer whom derided ANOTHER Aeris cosplayer going as a Zombie Aeris (as a poke to spoiler[Aeris dying in FFVII at the hands of Sephiroth.]) God, that was a sight to see.
Of course, the other 50 range from "ZOMG, bootiful!!" to "KILL WITH FIRE!!" And it's always the latter that is the majority. |
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Jerseymilk
Posts: 157 Location: Wouldn't YOU like to know. |
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Oh I agree there. There is an ugly side to cosplay competition that's just as back-biting and petty as any beauty pageant. You'll get people that always take things *too* seriously in anything. |
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TAKAVAR
Posts: 138 Location: Canada |
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When I first saw shots of man-faye, I laughed- and that’s all. I don’t think he is a super fighting hero that he thinks he is* (as you can see it in the interview). Well, he does send a message, but that’s not really strong as it gets consumed in the humor and confusion around it. In the end, its just some guy who came up with a wacky idea, and made a joke out of sexy figures you see in anime, and in general, the idealizied physical apearance you see in media today.
So have a sense of humor, and drop the anime pride or whatever, because it’s senseless to take your hobbies too seriously. (No matter how much time you spend on them). *Figure of speech: Exaggeration. |
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hentai4me
Posts: 1313 Location: England. Robin is so Cute! |
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wow...so why dont we go on further with this opinion. if you cant speak proper english dont EVER try to. If you cant perform complex mathematical equations NEVER try If you cant be perfect at a sport immediately then STOP trying please...ever thought some people just dont have either the skill or the resources to make a near perfect costume? Why shouldnt they try and do the best with what they have? Why shuldnt they do something they consider fun that has absolutely NO meaningful bearing on anyone else. Lets look at man-faye he's not funny, he's raising points that have been raised time and again and he's largely innefectual but does he actually hurt anyone? Does his presence lessen someone elses enjoyment of a convention to the degree where the day becomes a failure(sure you may not like to see a semi nude hairy dude, but is glimpsing him to 30 seconds going to ruin your day?) |
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Successful_Troll
Posts: 132 |
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Wow, I must say I'm totally shocked at the amount of hate thrown at Man Faye. I'm assuming he goes around kidnapping forum members kittens to get this kind of response. I find him to be really funny. I'm hopefully going to Anime Expo this year, and I hope I get to meet him. Maybe I'll slap his ass.
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Kouji
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For those of you complaining about how Man-Faye is going to give people the wrong mental image about what anime is, who would you rather have Jay Leno interview? Some guy crossdressing as a female cartoon character most Americans don't even know a thing about or a 12 year old kid cosplaying as Ash Ketchum and raving about how Pokemon is the greatest thing since sliced bread? I bet that half of you people who are complaining about Man-Faye were also complaining about Pokemon giving people the wrong idea about anime just a few years ago and whining about how people should treat anime as something that older audiences watch. Well, for those of you who did, now you've got what you wanted, are you happy? Next time remember to be careful of what you wish for.
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Iconoclast
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I think cosplay is something every fan should enjoy. If they feel like making a costume and accestories than they should. I could care less if a 300 pound girl decides to cosplay as Faye or if a hairy man decides to cosplay as Faye. (Or any other character.) I think as long as they're having fun than it doesn't bother me. I also think Man-Faye has got ballls. <3 <3 I wish I could've seen him when he was on Jay Leno.
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Randall Miyashiro
Posts: 2451 Location: A block away from Golden Gate Park |
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I believe that Shogun has illustrated why I find this whole thread alarming. Where do you draw the line between good cosplay, and people having fun. Do e have the right to ban someone from a con if their costume is not accurate? Should someone who is not Japanese go to a con dressed as a character from Kenshin? Can a Japanese fan go to a con dressed as Char? Since I'm in my 30s does that rule out almost all of the main characters from most series who are in there teens? Should that fan who is only 5' 6" not dress as Alucard, Gutz or Vash? Once we start judging what is "right" and what is "wrong" we start on a dangerous path of censorship and discrimination. I'll repeat myself and say that Man-Faye isn't funny to me, but to say that he should't be allowed to do what he does (or some of the even harsher things people have said) scares me.
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