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neocloud9
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Great show this week! I loved that, even though Zac and Hope had such differing opinions on things like Trigun and Evangelion, you never got the impression that they respected each other any less for it. We need more of that out there. (I guess it's called being a mature adult, haha.) I hope Outlaw Star makes a comeback soon, too - I loved that show as a kid.
Luckily I own the Bandai brick set! It'd be a shame if it went out of print... |
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jrnemanich
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I think that JO just used the wrong phrase (torture porn). I think she was getting as something like "violence fest" or something similar.
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Primus
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Dragon Ball can never die. It will return. Right now Goku's just training for the next great battle. Saiyans get stronger after every near death fight! Believe!
Seriously though, Funimation milked DB releases until it bled. If they handled their release strategy better the BDs wouldn't have been canceled. You can't do like 4 releases (Orange Boxes -> Dragon Boxes -> Kai -> Blu-Ray) of what is basically the same show immediately one after the other and expect that to continue working for any large amount of time. Dragon Ball's popularity will return (heck, the show's popular on TV in the US still), and if they had saved the BDs to even later this year for the start it would've been better. People would've had some time to actually watch Kai, and their Dragon Boxes before the next release. |
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GATSU
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I agree on Vampire Knight. I've been saying for a while that Viz should have advertised it in front of Twilight screenings.
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Surrender Artist
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The JesuOtaku Anime Review has a little special significance to me because watching them was part of my slowly returning to active interest in anime. I was at first just watching because I found her analyses interesting, but over time I began to be more interested in the stuff. Another part of it was probably the death of Satoshi Kon, which very strongly grabbed my attention, but I prefer not to dwell on that.
I liked her review of Witchblade. I did and do still like the series, perhaps it’s my Benji the Hunted or Carnosaur, but it pointed to a lot of things that held the series down, although I still have a more generous opinion of the maternal relationship and the talky corporate stuff doesn't bore me, but that's because I'm very boring. I find Gonzo series strangely fascinating, because they often have good intentions and ideas, but it’s like they’re making soup with ingredients, but no recipe. (Amusingly after having watched Speed Grapher, I feel like they repeated themselves when they made Witchblade a year later because it has some pretty similar themes and ideas, although the themes are mostly common and they don't share the creative staff that I would expect to cause such repetition) I think that the Space Adventure Cobra film that Zac praised is available on Hulu at the moment. I’ve been staying away from it because I was leery of it for the reasons that he was, but it sounds as though it’s fun to watch. My friends and I watched the Hell out of Outlaw Star when we were in high school. It, along with Trigun and Cowboy Bebop were our staples. I haven’t seen it in years, but even though I know it has limitations, I should still be really entertaining. When Zac mentioned being embarrassed for other people at conventions, I couldn’t help but think of Princess Knight guy. I didn’t even know that they were making a Dark Shadows film. That seems like a weird choice, especially to remake it as a lame comedy. I remember the original series always used to lurk around every other corner of Sci-Fi Channel schedule back when I looked at their schedule. I can’t imagine that the title has much clout with general audiences and it the adaptation has evidently offended the fanbase, so I’m not sure why they bothered. I guess it’s that silly fixation with ‘branding’ that I’ve heard about. The closest I have to a yearly anime is probably Patlabor 2, because it requires only a modest commitment of time and it’s smart enough to reward repeated watching. Now that I’m armed with the Bandai Visual limited edition release, I probably have a good pretense to watch it again. I was slightly confused and disappointed when I read that The Legend of Korra would be on Saturday morning and saw advertisements for Cartoon Network’s new DC Saturday morning DC block. I think of ‘Saturday Morning Cartoons’ as a decaying relic of my past and think of those timeslots as a place to either bury things or desperately play for nostalgia. Sometimes I feel as though I'm waiting for the last LA English dub. Bandai, Media Blasters and Geneon gave them most of their business, which means there's a pronounced lack of customers for their services now. I suppose that the only way we might still get to hear that stable of actors now will be if Bandai Japan tries to replicate the success of Gundam Unicorn and Aniplex likes how their release of Puella Magi Madoka Magica works out. My heart skipped a quarter beat when Zac started using my questions at the end. I had become very sanguine that they wouldn’t be used and got rather nervous when he started asking them. I'm glad that they yielded some pretty good discussion. For some dumb reason I was worried that there wouldn’t be enough from other sources, which clearly wasn’t true, so I overdid it and expected most to be cut. I also didn’t realize that my e-mail address was inflicting my full name on people; that makes me sound so sad and pompous. I am sad and pompous, but there’s no reason to advertise the fact. I was surprised when Hope said that the responses to video reviews were more vitriolic. I had expected the opposite to be true because I thought that seeing the reviewer’s eyes, even though that’s minimal in Hope’s reviews, and hearing the reviewer’s voice would trigger a little moderating compassion. I had also thought that the possibility of the reviewer having control over the tone voice for the review would have a moderating effect compared to a written review wherein the person reading can impute any tone into the words and will tend to accentuate the negative. Well, glad I asked then. My question on the relevance of anime critics, as well as my gratuitous invocation of Pauline Kael in the first question, was provoked by a book review I had recently read that dealt with the idea that the influence of film critics had declined. The position of anime critics seems interesting and challenging. Early on I would expect that there was little room for them because anime was so scarce that there was weak incentive to be selective. Now it’s abundant, so there’s more room to discriminate, but because it’s so cheap it’s not essential and some people even seem opposed to the idea of discriminating among titles. It’s also limited by some of it being so heavily coded to appeal to particular audiences that some titles and people are review proof. There’s something like this in American film, as evidenced by the relentless success of Michael Bay’s Transformers films. I’ve even seen some people, perhaps not sincerely, take critical derision as a reason to watch something. When I asked about holistic readings of reviews versus particular one’s, I was thinking more of how I sometimes see people write things like, “IT HAS A GIANT ROBOT WITH A SLEDGEHAMMER FOR A HEAD?!? I GOTTA SEE THAT!” That’s pretty cold-blooded exaggeration, but it made me wonder how many people take a review as a sort of gestalt versus how many people comb reviews for particular elements that seize their attention. “Curio,” was daft word choice. The other part of the question, and I might have buried the lede, was more about whether negative or positive reviews are more influential. I’ve been intermittently about some of the angry response to reviews and even to the concept of reviews and how it relates to the reality of their influence. I have seen people complain about reviews of specific works or even reviews generally because they will, ”discourage people from seeing a good show,” or something similar, but I tend to doubt that and I seldom see anybody complain that a good review might encourage people to waste their time. I think that positive reviews are really the more important kind and finding things worthy of good review might in a way be the point of reviews. People who write about something regularly usually have a passion for the medium, so they’re more interested in promoting the best examples of it than in denigrating the worst. Would ANN rather be remember, after all, as the site that savaged Beet the Vandel Buster or the site that stumped for Redline? The last question probably didn’t get at what I was thinking about. I’m not really trained in aesthetics or criticism, so I’ve been traipsing aimlessly and ignorantly in a strange land that happens to be pretty interesting. I've seen some people distinguish 'favorite' from 'best'; the former being a standard of enjoyment and the latter a more abstract or artistic standard. So I was wondering if an English dub could be enjoyable, but because it altered the original, it necessarily compromised it as art. I think that it's silly to think about the rank and file of anime that way, but the general idea is at least a little interesting. Well, nevertheless, thank you for using some of them and for giving me V Guy as an opening act. Last edited by Surrender Artist on Sat Mar 24, 2012 9:26 am; edited 3 times in total |
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_V_
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Ack, sorry I must have read NISA for one of the other Persona-series video games. Which is great, I like Section 23, all the better. Actually, several voice actors have publicly stated that they are currently having studio recording sessions for a Persona 4 English dub (i.e. Amanda Winn Lee). |
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anime engineer
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"the games are horrible" are you kidding me? i now hate her, the games were awesome on the play station 1
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Cecilthedarkknight_234
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sounds like i am white-knighting here "opposite of my user name lawl" but she isn't a gamer and stated that fact clearly in the pod-cast. I love the games myself, happy they got psp-ports etc but if you are not a hard-core gamer...then you are not going to care about them source material or not. |
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ikillchicken
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I agree that the original Dragonball Z is just too padded to watch. I don't really think that problem persists into Kai though. Of course, I've always also held that Dragonball is not meant to be marathoned. It really is best watched in a TV format. One episode at a time, one day at a time. It just works better that way.
Joss Whedon's involvement is the only think that gives me hope for Avengers. I just don't know how a movie with such a big cast can not be a big bloated mess. Maybe if they just stopped worrying about the fanboys and cut it down to the major players (Hulk, Iron Man, Cap and Thor) then maybe it could work. And seriously, fudge Hawkeye. He is a stupid character. The Blue Exorcist thing really boggles my mind. There's no way that show couldn't have made money with a dub and a funimation release. They handled Madoka well though. That's basically the kind of premium model I want to see. Trigun does hold up. The tone shift is executed very well. The light hearted start is needed to draw you in. I don't think the transition is messy. I think it works just fine. As for having to look stuff up...eh, not really. There's nothing in that show that actually matters that you need to look up. I mean, does it matter what a plant is? Do you need to know to enjoy Trigun? I don't think so at all. You're not psyched up for Kids on the Slope Zac? Made me remember why I love anime? ...REEEEEEEDLIIIIIINE! If Viz pulled out of the DVD business forever it would be just fine with me. |
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ArsenicSteel
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But you got to admit that holding such a strong opinion about a game with the context of not being a game player is pretty funny. |
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Cecilthedarkknight_234
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perhaps so i don't know hope personally or seen many of her reviews. However most people that play rpgs don't want the tedious grinding to go from point a to point b " i love that personally" and well i know plenty of anime fans that are not gamers in any-way. |
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ArsenicSteel
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Personally I find gamers that got into RPGs 10 or more years ago, like the grind or at least think of it as a means to an end. New gamers whine about all the most basic and accepted concepts in console RPG play; bottomless bags, looting stuff from dead bodies, leveling up being too complicated/restrictive, getting experience from using skills or talking to people, blah blah blah. New gamers don't really want to play RPGs they'd rather play action adventure games but they need to have the street cred that the RPG genre brings.
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TitanXL
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So basically when Call of Duty and Halo got popular and attracted the casual frat-boy gamer demograph this generation. Probably casual gamers in general from this generation. Fratboys getting into CoD and Halo on 360, moms and dads getting into the shovelware Wii games. Didn't have that problem back in the PS2 era. Gaming has become a lot more casual and mainstream since then, which in turns, means extremely dumbed down and casual stuff is going to be more popular. Even within the FPS genre it's happened. Seems like 99% of FPS these days have to have regenerating health, cover-based shooting, and only 2 to 3 weapons at a time. I guess forcing players to track down health kits, and learn the art of circle strafing, and giving them more than 2 guns is too complicated for people now. |
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Zac
ANN Executive Editor
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This sort of elitism is hilarious. "The art of circle strafing". Jesus. They don't force people to use text prompts anymore, do I get to pretend I'm better than everyone else because I grew up on Sierra adventure games in the 80s that required you to guess what the game wanted you to type?
What in the world are you talking about Street cred If you can't see how ridiculous this sort of talk is there's no helping you. |
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The Black Stones
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I wouldn't jump the gun just yet. It's very possible they might have gone back for extra "Persona 4: The Golden" work so Atlus USA can get a Vita game out the door ASAP. It very well could be the anime, but I wouldn't call it confirmed. |
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