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Akane the Catgirl
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^ Ah, but you forget; though Duck admired Mytho and desired to bring his emotions and heart back to him, all she brought him was pain. Disappointment, sorrow, fear- these were all negative feelings Princess Tutu returned to her prince. Was it right for her to make him cry? Though she had good intentions, all Duck did was pave Mytho's road to hell...
Of course, that's all speculation from yours truly. So far, (with the exception of anything involving Duck's annoying friends) there's been almost no filler. Nothing ever dragged for me, and even some unimportant scenes do come back. Then again, I haven't seen this show for a long time. Maybe you should try again. There might be something you missed because you fell asleep. :3 (Then again, if you normally don't like shoujo or leisurely-paced girly anime, don't watch again. Like I said, Princess Tutu likes to take it's time to establish it's themes and story. |
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TsunaReborn!
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To be fair it's on my "to rewatch" shelf so I'll get around to it and reevaluate at a later date
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Animeking1108
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Considering most people either like one or the other, probably. |
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Chagen46
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No, Japan, every single anime does not need to have a lecherous pervert for the MC and to have endless boob size jokes.
Like holy damn can we get a show that doesn't have some extended "joke" about a flat-chested girl ashamed of her proportions? Or a "joke" about the MC being a pervert? They stopped being funny the third time I saw them, and I really hate how a TON of anime, especially those adapted from LN's, have them. |
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Lynxikat
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- While I find Black Butler is entertaining, I don't think it's particularly good. It's another anime that panders to the yaoi fangirl crowd. Ironically enough, I liked the second season a bit better (which panders EVEN MORE to the yaoi fangirls) because Alois is bad shit insane.
- This is more manga related, but I honestly think that Naruto was still good until the Fourth Ninja War arc. That, at least to me, is when the series truly took a serious dip in quality. - I think Cowboy Bebop is just okay. I don't really get the hype. Although that may be because I didn't watch it until a year or so ago. - While I genuinely do think spoiler[ Toboe and Quent's deaths are incredibly sad (Seriously, they weren't even my favorite characters, but I still cried),] the other deaths in Wolf's Rain felt forced. I never felt sad at the other characters dying in Wolf's Rain because I felt like they died solely because the writer wanted every single character to die, and that's it. - The time I attempted to watch Haruhi Suzumiya all the way through, I thought that Haruhi was unlikable and repulsive. I didn't understand why she was so popular, and I still don't. I actually think she's even more horrible in the dub because I think she's even more whiny. - I prefer Silver Spoon over FMA. At least, I think it's unpopular an unpopular opinion. [EDIT: Spoiler tags added for Wolf's Rain. Please try to be more courteous in the future. Thanks. -TK] |
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Redbeard 101
Oscar the Grouch
Forums Superstar  Posts: 16935 |
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Count me in the minority that liked both then. I went into Brotherhood though treating it as a separate entity. Not just the same show told differently. I view both shows as entirely different stories and enjoy both. |
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iSuckAtWriting
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I don't particularly like Ghost in the Shell. Watching it thrice does absolutely nothing for me. >.<
“If you don’t know where you’re from, then you don’t know where you are, and you don’t know where you’re going.” It’s a clichéd if truthful saying, especially for this film. Well, sort of. This film knows where it’s going, but it doesn’t know how to get there, it doesn’t know where it is, and it doesn’t know where it’s from. This film is a voice pining to speak, but it studders at every word. So where does this leave Ghost in the Shell? Read on to find out. In the year 2029, cybernetic technology has strengthened the human body and connected the human mind. Barriers have been broken as people can access the Internet with just their body alone. But with this new tech, comes cyber criminals looking to exploit it, and Section 9, a group tasked with stopping cyber criminals. One criminal, the Puppet Master, is skilled enough to hack the human mind. As Section 9 works to track him down, his very existence will challenge the idea of what it means to be human. This is because almost every member of Section 9 is cybernetically enhanced. They’re basically super soldiers, with abilities far beyond even what most civilians can do. But at the same time, they’re just as vulnerable as anyone else. If a cybernetically enhanced person is hacked, their memories can be deleted or they can be fooled into believing a false life. Even then, their bodies need maintenance, and a system failure on that end would mean going back to their old shells or returning to dust. The story is basically used to explore what it means to be human. But Ghost in the Shell explores these themes with as much discipline as an undisciplined soldier. Sometimes the themes are used believably, like with Motoko or Togusa’s dialog with the captured criminals after the garbage truck chase scene. Or Section 9’s dialog in Daisuke’s office about something they discovered. These scenes are believable because it raises the questions the film wants to ask, without letting them become heavy, so the plot still moves forward. At other times, the theme use is cringeworthy. The last dialog from the Puppet Master shows an evolutionary tree several times, with the most roundabout way of saying “I want to evolve.” Or the boatside dialog between Motoko and Batou, where the former switches from soldier to philosopher at the drop of a hat, with deep water metaphors abound. There is actually a point where the second scene takes Batou’s point of view, giving the effect of Motoko talking to the viewer. Seriously. Seriously. The film wants to be thought provoking, but doesn’t know how to express itself. At some points it expresses itself quietly, letting scarce dialog and a lot of plot progress imply questions for its viewers. At other times, the questions are loudly overplayed, hitting viewers over the head and grinding the plot to a halt. The story itself, for all the international conspiracy it involves, is underplayed. But that’s not a problem, since it’s just a vehicle for the themes the film tries to convey. Too bad then, that said vehicle breaks down several times throughout the film. For minutes on end, the plot is road blocked by scenes of Motoko being cybernetically enhanced, random scenes of the city, and scenes of the military getting ready. But only the military scenes resemble story progress. The city scenes don’t progress the story, and Motoko’s scene would have worked as part of her background, but becomes pointless when later scenes explain it anyway. Time spent on these montages should have been used smoothing out character progress. Most of the characters themselves have the same personality (military badass), making them hard to tell apart. Some background can help to tell them apart, but most of them are undeveloped on that end too, or share the same background anyway (“we’re all cybernetically enhanced”). This only leaves character progress to save its cast, but the result is like a failed military mission. And the one who takes the most casualties from this is Motoko. Motoko has the most progress in the film, but it comes in chunks and lacks sincerity. Spending most of the film being a military badass, peppered with scenes FILLED with philosophical rambling, or worry over Section 9’s discovery, simply doesn’t compute. It lacks a middle ground to bridge the opposite sides of her personality, so it’s hard to believe her as the same person. Character progress should be steady, not sudden. The only one with steady progress is Batou. Batou starts as a military badass, whose humanity slowly shows itself as the film goes on. During the boatside dialog, the viewer can get a sense of why Batou tagged along with Motoko when she’s changing out of her swimwear. During the dialog in Daisuke’s office, Batou casually tells Togusa why a recent discovery is a sore spot for Section 9. And during the last scenes, Batou’s emotions finally boil over in the end confrontation with the Puppet Master. And speaking of confrontation, there’s the actions scenes in the film, and by extension, the film’s aesthetics. The animation is fluid, but the art design itself is grimy and imperfect. There’s a sense that every street in the city has been lived in, that characters have worn out their outfits, that colors lack any life to them. It’s not pretty, but then again, a crime that can invade the mind itself wouldn’t be pretty. The visuals have an organic look despite the high-tech setting and being computer generated, making them more impressive. The action scenes themselves are quiet, forgoing actual music in favor of bone-crunching sound effects. The ground crunches when Motoko drops from a large height, and gun shots are the only melody during action-packed symphonies. Some of the scenes, like a criminal’s leg being twisted, or the snapping of Motoko’s arms when she’s trying to open an army tank, can be hard to watch. But that just goes with the gritty feel the film tries—and succeeds—to give. There IS actual music, a haunting, choir-like piece. But it’s used in the montages that do almost nothing for the story, making for a nice but pointless soundtrack. Time spent on those montages should have been used to smooth out character progress. Even then, the story’s themes are believably used one moment, then without subtlety the next moment. Some viewers may wish the Puppet Master would delete their memories of wasting 82 minutes gawking at aesthetic wonders. Now, to say Ghost in the Shell is enjoyable with the viewer’s brain turned off, watching it for the underplayed story, and being wowed by the aesthetics is a reasonable stance. But that would be ignoring everything else the film tries to do, and for something trying to be thought provoking, it’s inexcusable. This film may be a smart Ghost, but the voice it leaves behind is only a Shell of what it could be. |
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Touma
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If you do not like it why did you watch it three times? |
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iSuckAtWriting
Posts: 7 Location: Location: Location |
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iRewatch something at least once to try and form a better opinion about it, and maybe my perspective can change. The latter didn't happen. o~o |
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Touma
Posts: 2651 Location: Colorado, USA |
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OK. I can understand that. In case there were any doubts, I was just asking a question and not making a sarcastic comment. Thank you for answering. |
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Unicorn_Blade
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High five. I loved both FMA series, and never liked Anohana. I found the ending really disappointing. I guess that makes our opinions a bit more popular 
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Ignatz
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What’s your problem with anohana? Have you no soul?!?
Wait a minute . . . Unicorn_Blade, if you don't like it, then why do you have it rated as Very good? |
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Blood-
 Bargain Hunter Posts: 23771 |
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 Can you imagine the rating she would have given if she had liked it?
UBER-MASTERPIECE DOUBLE PLUS!!! |
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dtm42
Posts: 14084 Location: currently stalking my waifu |
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Maybe because they understood it is a good series even though they didn't like it? I've given plenty of high ratings to shows I disliked but which were good. I've also given countless low ratings to shows I liked but which were bad. To judge something fairly means putting aside your personal feelings. |
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Unicorn_Blade
Posts: 1153 Location: UK |
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What dtm42 said. I might have not liked it, but I could not call it a bad or an average show. It was well done, well casted, had a good idea behind it up until almost the end which for me was a big disappointment. Did not rock my boat in a way which seems to be the case of many other people. To give you another example, I once highly rated Citizen Kane, and yet I would never call it one of my favourite films of all times and as a matter of fact would not really feel like even re-watching it, but I can appreciate its technical merits, the script and acting. |
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