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Mad_Scientist
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I'm guessing negative. Anyways, Afro Samurai is an anime, but it's specifically geared towards US audiences, with a famous actor starring in the title role and serving as a producer even. This kind of helps it get some exposure. And I don't really think it really get's that much more exposure even so. |
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Kougeru
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one of the most overrated anime definately, but still nice thats it will be on tv
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Unit 03.5-ish
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If I piss someone off with this post, so be it: my irritation isn't so much the exposure (no one can blame FUNi for milking a piping hot property), it's that an anime that reeks of what should have been left behind in the OVA era -- needless and excessive violence and sex -- are represented in this movie, and in fact brought back out in full force, and the producers KNEW that by airing it on Spike TV and placing Jackson in the lead role, they would reach the meatheaded jock crowd that thinks Spike TV is the height of basic cable programming.
I'm not calling anyone here a meathead jock, by the by. Just saying. |
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Mad_Scientist
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I can understand your first point - I haven't seen the series, but from the glimpses I've caught of it does look pretty extreme - but I don't understand the second point. What's wrong with them putting it on a network where it is likely to do well? I mean, if you got a kid's show, air it on a network with lot's of kids watching. If you got a show full of tons of senseless violence and sex, air it on a network where lot's of people who watch it like that stuff. I wish more networks that don't usually show anime would be willing to air shows that fit in with their other programs like this. |
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hikaru004
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I don't consider this anime either. It's an American animation title that happens to be animated by a Japanese studio.
It does, however, show you what GONZO is capable of when it has the money. Nice animation. It only had 2 pointless sex scenes this time. 
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Mad_Scientist
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In the TV version, that is. Unedited version, who knows? And I think it's counts as anime. A joint US/Japan product, but it's still anime. Heck, the original series at least is even based off of a manga. |
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Unit 03.5-ish
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It's not that I take issue with adult-oriented anime, this series just seems particularly low-brow to me. I don't expect something that's going to be a masterpiece, but a modicum of intelligence in my programming tastes is often welcome.
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Greed1914
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Exactly what I was going to say. Sure this title appeals strongly towards a Western audience, so much so that it received funding from America, but it was still made in Japan and based off of a manga. I consider Witchblade to be anime even though it's based off of an American comic book, so I don't see the problem for this. |
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Top Gun
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Considering that the general Western definition of the term is "animation created in Japan," I'm sensing a self-contradiction here. 
I didn't get to see this tonight myself, though I half-wanted to. The original production was kind of fun, for what it was going for. Certainly not high art in the least, but reasonably entertaining. |
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Tofusensei
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Anything to infuse capital into the industry is good in my book.
-Tofu |
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Anime World Order
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Although it can be rather tricky to make the distinction, especially with regards to US/Japan coproductions, I do consider Afro Samurai to be anime, and let me tell you why: You can't necessarily go by asking "where was it animated?" because in this day and age, both US and Japanese animations alike are all animated in Korea, China, India, and various other countries. So the question I ask is "where are the majority of the key creative staff from?" Are the writers/directors/etc prominently Japanese? In the case of Afro Samurai, the answer is yes, and that's why I consider it to be anime but not something like say, the original Batman: The Animated Series (animated in Japan, written/directed by people in the US). Note that "majority" is subjective, as is what one considers "key" creative staff; although this isn't the thread for it (so if you want to dispute it then please do so elsewhere), I say Batman: Gotham Knight--another recent US/Japan coproduction--counts as anime because the majority of the staff was Japanese. It was written by US folks, and certainly the producers at DC got to be heavily involved (a little too much so for my tastes), but that's my judgment. The point can however be argued that another important question to ask is "who is the intended primary target audience?" Indeed, I use similar lines of reasoning when I find myself explaining to people why I classify certain titles as "manga" and others not. But it just feels wrong for me to apply that to anime, because that would mean that MD Geist II: Death Force wasn't anime! And that just simply couldn't be. Oh, right that reminds me:
As you have made multiple posts by this point espousing this viewpoint, I can only assume that your convictions are indeed sincere about it. In which case, might I remind you that irony and sarcasm don't exist on the Internet. Nobody can tell that you're making a facetious statement because there are plenty of people who actually believe what you consider to be a witty joke. What I'm trying to say here is that your profile interests list one thing and one thing alone: "Those Japanese cartoons with boobs and gore." Consider revising this, as it doesn't appear to be true! |
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Unit 03.5-ish
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Um...that part is a joke, and it's a joke on the ol' stereotype of anime from way back when.
See, I AM being serious in my views on this show. It ISN'T my thing. Uh...oh, whatever. |
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Yoda117
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Also, this isn't his first time doing an animation released by Funimation, as you mentioned. I don't know why people are surprised at his resume' as a voice actor. That's how he got his start (70s-Hanna Barbera animation series). Nice guy IRL too, always willing to give some advice to those who ask. |
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hikaru004
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The intended primary audience to me is Western populaton. It's just too Western feeling to me to be considered anime no matter who is the animation studio.
The guns, lasers, boom box with missiles in it, samurai with a tobacco addiction.... |
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Wild_Boy
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First time poster! Watched this last night. Not bad. At the same time, I found the pacing a little hard to get into. Also, didn't seem like they did much actual fight choreography (can't compare to Sword of the Stranger!). Voice acting was a little hot and cold. But, the backgrounds were pretty dazzling.
All in all though, felt like a 'safe sequel' which to me isn't so exciting. BTW - I'm glad for anything that puts money into the industry as well. But, to be honest, my taste is more Gurren Lagann, Haruhi, Stand Alone Complex, Mind Game, and Miyazaki / Ghibli. So, I probably like more of the 'Japan-only ' produced stuff - or at least the stuff where there's a true creative collaboration and not just some Americans colonizing a studio. For example, I thought Animatrix was really great and Gotham Night was just terrible. But, I hope more stuff comes down the road! I'm always willing to give cool animation a shot. I think the more of this kind of stuff gets made, the better a chance we'll get that something really interesting / sophisticated / visually exciting will happen. Anyway, the video game looks pretty amazing. I'll probably try that out. |
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