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enurtsol



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PostPosted: Sun Jun 17, 2012 3:57 pm Reply with quote
So Japanese actually stayed up on a work day to watch Dragonball: Evolution more than most late-night anime.................. What dedication! Laughing
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 17, 2012 4:00 pm Reply with quote
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So people actually stayed up on a work day to watch Dragonball: Evolution more than most late-night anime.................. What dedication! Laughing


Please tell me that it aired with a formal apology from President Obama and a contest to win tickets to egg the director's house.
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June 4-10
15.7%(14.1%) 06/10 (Sun) 6:30pm-7:00pm Fuji TV Sazae-san

10.3%(*9.5%) 06/09 (Sat) 6:00pm-6:30pm NTV Detective Conan

*8.7%(*9.5%) 06/10 (Sun) 6:00pm-6:30pm Fuji TV Chibi Maruko-chan

*8.7%(*8.8%) 06/10 (Sun) 9:30am-10:00am Fuji TV One Piece

*6.3%(*6.2%) 06/10 (Sun) 9:00am-9:30am Fuji TV Toriko

*5.0%(*5.5%) 06/09 (Sat) 9:55am-10:25am Fuji TV One Piece Special Edition

*5.0%(*5.1%) 06/10 (Sun) 8:30am-9:00am TV Asahi Smile Pretty Cure!

*3.8%(*4.5%) 06/07 (Thu) 7:00pm-7:30pm TV Tokyo Pokemon: Best Wishes!

*3.6%(**.*%) 06/09 (Sat) 8:35am-9:00am ETV Curious George TV

*3.4%(*2.4%) 06/10 (Sun) 6:15am-6:15am Fuji TV Go! Go! Chuggington

*3.4%(**.*%) 06/07 (Thu) 7:30pm-7:57pm TV Tokyo Naruto SHIPPUDEN

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*3.0%(*2.7%) 06/10 (Sun) 7:00am-7:30am TV Asahi Battle Spirits: Heroes

*3.0%(*1.8%) 06/10 (Sun) 5:00pm-5:30pm TBS Gundam AGE

*2.7%(*2.3%) 06/10 (Sun) 6:30am-7:00am TV Asashi Saint Seiya Omega

*2.5%(*3.4%) 06/06 (Wed) 7:00pm-7:27pm TV Tokyo Inazuma Eleven GO 2: Chrono Stone

*2.5%(*1.6%) 06/09 (Sat) 9:00am-9:30am TV Tokyo Tottoko Hamtaro Dechu

*2.4%(*3.7%) 06/08 (Fri) 4:30pm-5:00pm NTV Soreike! Anpanman

*2.4%(*3.0%) 06/10 (Sun) 7:00am-7:30am NTV Uchū Kyōdai

*2.4%(*2.3%) 06/04 (Mon) 7:00pm-7:30pm TV Tokyo Tamagotchi!

*2.4%(*2.3%) 06/04 (Mon) 7:30pm-8:00pm TV Tokyo Yu-Gi-Oh! Zexal

*2.4%(*2.2%) 06/10 (Sun) 8:30am-8:45am TV Tokyo Metal Fight Beyblade Zero-G

*2.4%(*1.8%) 06/10 (Sun) 8:45am-9:00am TV Tokyo Cross Fight B-Daman

*2.3%(*3.4%) 06/06 (Wed) 7:27pm-7:55pm TV Tokyo Danbōru Senki W

*2.3%(*1.4%) 06/09 (Sat) 9:30am-10:00am NHK Ginga e Kickoff!!

*2.3%(*1.9%) 06/09 (Sat) 9:30am-10:00am TV Tokyo Jewelpet Kira☆Deco—!

*2.2%(*0.9%) 06/09 (Sat) 6:00am-6:30am TV Asahi Area no Kishi

*1.7%(*2.2%) 06/06 (Wed) 1:39am-2:09am NTV Lupin III ~Mine Fujiko to Iu Onna~

*1.7%(*0.9%) 06/07 (Thu) 12:45am-1:45am Fuji TV Sakamichi no Apollon/tsuritama

*1.6%(*1.3%) 06/09 (Sat) 10:30am-11:00am TV Tokyo FAIRY TAIL

*1.5%(*1.6%) 06/07 (Thu) 6:00pm-6:30pm TV Tokyo Sket Dance

*1.5%(*1.0%) 06/05 (Tue) 6:00pm-6:30pm TV Tokyo Naruto SD: Rock Lee no Seishun Full-Power Ninden

*1.3%(*1.4%) 06/09 (Sat) 8:00am-8:30am TV Tokyo Cardfight!! Vanguard: Asia Circuit Hen

*1.3%(*1.3%) 06/07 (Thu) 5:30pm-6:00pm TV Tokyo Polar Bear's Café

*1.3%(*1.1%) 06/09 (Sat) 10:00am-10:30am TV Tokyo Pretty Rhythm Aurora Dream

*1.0%(*1.5%) 06/07 (Thu) 1:25am-2:55am TBS Acchi Kocchi

*1.0%(*0.7%) 06/07 (Thu) 1:55am-2:25am TBS Sankarea

*1.0%(*1.2%) 06/04 (Mon) 6:00pm-6:30pm TV Tokyo Gon

*1.0%(*0.4%) 06/08 (Fri) 1:55am-2:25am TBS EUREKA SEVEN AO

*0.8%(*0.5%) 06/05 (Tue) 5:30pm-6:00pm TV Tokyo Keroro Gunsou (Rerun)

*0.7%(*0.4%) 06/10 (Sun) 1:05am-1:35am TV Tokyo Saki Achiga-hen episode of side-A

*0.7%(*0.1%) 06/04 (Mon) 2:00am-2:30am TV Tokyo Haiyore! Nyaruko-san

*0.6%(*0.9%) 06/04 (Mon) 5:30pm-6:00pm TV Tokyo Cardfight!! Vanguard (Rerun)

*0.6%(*0.7%) 06/06 (Wed) 1:50am-2:20am TV Tokyo Medaka Box

*0.5%(*0.7%) 06/08 (Fri) 2:25am-2:55am TBS Natsuiro Kiseki

*0.5%(*0.3%) 06/04 (Mon) 1:30am-2:00am TV Tokyo Kimi to Boku. 2

*0.5%(*0.2%) 06/10 (Sun) 1:35am-2:05am TV Tokyo Aquarion Evol

*0.3%(*1.0%) 06/07 (Thu) 1:45am-2:15am TV Tokyo Sengoku Collection


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PostPosted: Sun Jun 17, 2012 5:19 pm Reply with quote
Holy crap. What the heck happened in Area no Kishi that brought it to a respectable 2.2% after having practically the entire run so far under 1%?
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 17, 2012 5:29 pm Reply with quote
enurtsol wrote:
So Japanese actually stayed up on a work day to watch Dragonball: Evolution more than most late-night anime.................. What dedication! Laughing


The charts are only percentages of the total available audience. Evolution garnered 1.5% of the total audience at the time it aired. Of that 1.5% there's no way to tell if those people stayed up especially for Evolution or if they were already part of the audience that exists at 2am.
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The fact that a horrid abomination like Evolution aired on Japanese Television is baffling in itself must of had nothing else to play at one time Ron Perlman was going to play Piccolo in the film thanks goodness that didn't happen Ron is far to great of an entertainer to be in such nonsense like Evolution.

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 17, 2012 10:18 pm Reply with quote
ArsenicSteel wrote:
enurtsol wrote:
So Japanese actually stayed up on a work day to watch Dragonball: Evolution more than most late-night anime.................. What dedication! Laughing


The charts are only percentages of the total available audience. Evolution garnered 1.5% of the total audience at the time it aired. Of that 1.5% there's no way to tell if those people stayed up especially for Evolution or if they were already part of the audience that exists at 2am.


In Neilsen parlance, it's called the "share." That's why we usually see two Nielsen numbers together - one's the ratings, the other's the share. The numbers work the same way ya mentioned, though 2-hour movies+ads are probably the average across multiple timeslots (in DB:E's case, they're measuring till 4am Shocked ). And now, back to your local PSA programme.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 18, 2012 12:59 am Reply with quote
enurtsol wrote:
ArsenicSteel wrote:
enurtsol wrote:
So Japanese actually stayed up on a work day to watch Dragonball: Evolution more than most late-night anime.................. What dedication! Laughing


The charts are only percentages of the total available audience. Evolution garnered 1.5% of the total audience at the time it aired. Of that 1.5% there's no way to tell if those people stayed up especially for Evolution or if they were already part of the audience that exists at 2am.


In Neilsen parlance, it's called the "share." That's why we usually see two Nielsen numbers together - one's the ratings, the other's the share. The numbers work the same way ya mentioned, though 2-hour movies+ads are probably the average across multiple timeslots (in DB:E's case, they're measuring till 4am Shocked ). And now, back to your local PSA programme.

Knowing what it's called at this point is just techno babble to detract from your misinformation. Neither number addresses the issue you raised by mentioning people stayed up specifically to watch Evolution.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 18, 2012 1:09 am Reply with quote
ArsenicSteel wrote:

Knowing what it's called at this point is just techno babble to detract from your misinformation. Neither number addresses the issue you raised by mentioning people stayed up specifically to watch Evolution.


I can almost guarantee that a huge chunk of those viewers would have been up regardless.

I've watched all sorts of terrible shit on TV at 2am, none of which I 'stayed up' for
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 18, 2012 3:10 am Reply with quote
I AM THE VAST UNIVERSE wrote:
The fact that a horrid abomination like Evolution aired on Japanese Television is baffling in itself must of had nothing else to play at one time Ron Perlman was going to play Piccolo in the film thanks goodness that didn't happen Ron is far to great of an entertainer to be in such nonsense like Evolution.


Just because it aired doesn't mean people like it.

Tons of people go see terrible movies just to see how terrible they are... for some reason. I imagine seeing the bastardization of one of the most iconic series in Japan would be interesting for some people
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 18, 2012 4:24 am Reply with quote
ArsenicSteel wrote:
enurtsol wrote:
ArsenicSteel wrote:
enurtsol wrote:
So Japanese actually stayed up on a work day to watch Dragonball: Evolution more than most late-night anime.................. What dedication! Laughing


The charts are only percentages of the total available audience. Evolution garnered 1.5% of the total audience at the time it aired. Of that 1.5% there's no way to tell if those people stayed up especially for Evolution or if they were already part of the audience that exists at 2am.


In Neilsen parlance, it's called the "share." That's why we usually see two Nielsen numbers together - one's the ratings, the other's the share. The numbers work the same way ya mentioned, though 2-hour movies+ads are probably the average across multiple timeslots (in DB:E's case, they're measuring till 4am Shocked ). And now, back to your local PSA programme.

Knowing what it's called at this point is just techno babble to detract from your misinformation. Neither number addresses the issue you raised by mentioning people stayed up specifically to watch Evolution.


Which misinformation?! 1.5% is its measured ratings according to the Japanese source. Who knows exactly how many stayed up specifically to watch it, or how many just left their TVs on, or how many was from the previous programme that ended at 2:08am. But then, who knows how many stayed up specifically to watch any late-night anime, or Adult Swim anime, or any of the other questions - but do we ask these about any of those ratings? No, we don't.

When Lupin III ~Mine Fujiko to Iu Onna~ got *1.7%(*2.2%) ratings at 1:39am, we say that *1.7%(*2.2%) stayed up to watch it. Do we question how many specifically stayed up for it or just "hangers-on" from the previous programme ending at 1:38am? When 500,000 watched the premiere of Durarara on Adult Swim, do we raise the issue about how many just left their TVs on? Of course not; it just goes without saying - we always assume that the ratings number is close to the number of people who stayed up specifically for it. Also, ratings are just estimates, not an exact number. So why do you care to ask about this particular rating when the other ratings don't get the same treatment anyway? You're asking too much from DB:E's ratings that you don't ask of the other ratings.

Furthermore, DB:E would likely be a 2-hour movie+ads programme. It would had spanned multiple timeslots, from 2am-4am. Not sure exactly how the Japanese ratings system treats programmes spanning multiple timeslots, but the 1.5% was likely some sort of average of those timeslots. That means it's less likely that, as you're insinuating, people from the previous programme ending at 2:08am would be counted in the 2:30-3:00am, the 3:00-3:30am, and the 3:30am-4:00am ratings slots. So those "hangers-on" wouldn't had affected much the aggregated average ratings regardless.

Lastly, I was merely making fun of their "dedication" (how ever many exactly it is, doesn't matter) to such a lousy movie that it got 1.5% ratings all the way up to 4am timeslot that's even more than many late-night anime get. It'd be sad if that's what ya saw as some sort of "misinformation" campaign.


TitanXL wrote:
I AM THE VAST UNIVERSE wrote:
The fact that a horrid abomination like Evolution aired on Japanese Television is baffling in itself must of had nothing else to play at one time Ron Perlman was going to play Piccolo in the film thanks goodness that didn't happen Ron is far to great of an entertainer to be in such nonsense like Evolution.


Just because it aired doesn't mean people like it.

Tons of people go see terrible movies just to see how terrible they are... for some reason.


No qualms with that. We could say the same about any other ratings, after all.
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Nice seeing One Piece up there twice... again xD
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All that poor 1.5% audience...
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Do we know anything about the Japanese dub? Because if it takes... "liberties" with the material, it could easily be a decent product.
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Which misinformation?! 1.5% is its measured ratings according to the Japanese source. Who knows exactly how many stayed up specifically to watch it, or how many just left their TVs on, or how many was from the previous programme that ended at 2:08am.


If one were to read your first post then one would be lead to believe that you know people, during a work week, stayed up to specifically watch Evolution.

Not really seeing the reasoning at the continued attempt to drag this into how "we" discuss the Neilsen ratings. All I know is that in this talkback articles I have been discussing that percentage of the total audience a show gets, not why any viewer is part of the total audience at any particular time. Because the former is supported by the data and the latter is baseless conjecture.

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So why do you care to ask about this particular rating when the other ratings don't get the same treatment anyway?

I am not asking anything of special of Evolution's ratings. What I've done is point out that your speculation that "Japanese actually stayed up on a work day to watch" is speculation based on the percentage of total viewership but the data does actually allow for such elaboration.

I don't participate in Neilsen rating discussions because I don't have a membership with the places those discussions take place but I find comments that speculate any part of the audience stayed up to watch a show just as arrant as your statements here, even if I can't reply to them. Whatever "we" get away with when discussing Neilsen ratings is completely besides the point here.
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