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yurihellsing
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 Posted: Sun Jul 01, 2012 7:29 pm
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| faintsmile1992 wrote: |
| Conan-san wrote: |
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| Conan-san wrote: | The fact that they're fighting "Free but week delay + Adverts" with "Pay up or get nothing" is what killed it.
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Legally I don't see what the fuss is, they're just cracking down on illegal activity cause... its the law.
But personally its obvious legal, pad for download-only content is a rip off. Look at games services like Steam. If everything goes download only in the hands of creeps like that, then nothing's illegal if you don't get caught...
As for anime... well everything used to be fansub? The core of income for the anime industry is from Japan and I'm actually concerned that attempting to extend the appeal of anime abroad will mean em selling out by de-Japanisation for western audiences. Was it in Japanamerica by Roland Kelts, there were horror stories about Americans approaching the anime industry to dumb it down? "What did Jonathan Clements say in Newtype? "If I wanted Caucasian I could get that at home?"
My point is, the official Western anime industry gets its income from dubbed anime sold on DVD? And pay-to-stream shit is an attempt to take over a Western fandom that existed for decades now with no one caring till now. |
...wut? |
What exactly makes you go 'wut', Conan? If you read what I said correctly, there's no contradiction in what I wrote. What's good for the industry, and what is the law doing their job, are a different thing to what's good for me if certain trends carry on.
The last two paragraphs are an observation on the idea that people torrenting fansubs are now 'stealing', when no one used to care they were there.
Well they have to cost some sales, no one can deny that. But how many? Most sales here in the UK are of dubbed anime, like they've always been. The most logical inference from this, IMO, is that fandubs and the people watching 'em are less relevant to sales than people think. |
You lost me at referring Steam as "Those creeps" |
Well there's enough on the internet about Steam acting like dicks. And if the download distribution of games through people like Steam is anything to go by, I'm not in favour of supporting legal downloads. |
That's cause gamers are the hardest people on earth to please and there's nothing wrong with the steam service in fact it's the way all PC games should be done i.e you buy the game download it and it plays without needing updates.
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Mohawk52
Joined: 16 Oct 2003
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Location: England, UK
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Posted: Mon Jul 02, 2012 4:28 am
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This is just a DRAFT, which means it's what they would like to do if they can get their way, which means it has to be debated over and over again then go through the "other place" aka Lords for more sessions of debates. In short they basically want the ISPs to police this and they are kicking and screaming that they can't as they don't have the infrastucture to do so and don't really want to invest in installing it anyway as it's allegedly very costly and not very effective. Ofcom also want these same ISPs to filter any kind of porn from their service where one has to purposely subscribe to have it accessible, but that alone has been in debate in the Commons for a few years now with no agreement between parties, and even front and back benches of the same party, so as highlighted these things can drag on forever. I'd be surprised if this even gets approved before the next general election in 2015 if ever.
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ConanSan
Joined: 13 Jun 2007
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Posted: Mon Jul 02, 2012 8:45 am
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Oh they'll bum rush it in like they did the DEA back in 09.
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Mohawk52
Joined: 16 Oct 2003
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Posted: Mon Jul 02, 2012 9:35 am
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| Conan-san wrote: | | Oh they'll bum rush it in like they did the DEA back in 09. |
I think they've got enough on their plate now that should keep them focused at present, and DEA seems to have been lost in the deep abyss of bureaucracy . Yes it's now on the books, but who's been successfully prosecuted by it yet?
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