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Veers
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jl07045, you're right. However, the humor that is in the fat of those two VNs is a different kind of humor. It's a "lighten the mood via romcom shenanigans and terrible food" kind of humor. It's a kind of humor that helps the story have a contrasting light side for all its serious darkness, but it's a kind of humor that I don't kind particularity clever or even humorous compared to most of CP (which is mostly puns, 4th wall breaking jokes, and canon and fanon things plays to the extreme for laughs).
Heh, at the Kajiura concert at AX last weekend, Kajiura said she enjoyed working on F/Z but it was such a heavy show she's glad to be working on something lighter now. Personally, I think both approaches work (HF's constrasts vs F/Z's complete seriousness), but if I had to pick, I prefer F/Z's method of execution more often.
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jl07045
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Yes, it serves different purpose than in Carnival Phantasm, it isn't about delivering punchlines. Other than lightening mood at least some of it also helps to flesh out the characters beyond them embodying some idea or being puppets (so to speak) that drive the plot. It makes them more relatable. F/Z has little of that so the characters seem less approachable to me, exceptions being Alexander and Waver, Irisviel, that do other things beside what the plot requires. These bits are also the reason why something like Carnival Phantasm can actually be made and people connect with those jokes. They don't seem ooc. |
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Reibooi
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Now that Fate/zero has wrapped up I'm really hoping that TYPE-MOON has Ufotable tackle a new Fate/Stay Night series or OVA that tackles the Heaven's Feel path. I think it would be quite fitting seeing as you see alot of what would lead into that in Fate/Zero and seeing as it's the only path of the original VN that hasn't been done(although in my opinion studio DEEN didn't do the other two paths ANY justice) I would love to see it done. Heaven's Feel just oozes the style the Ufotable seems to do so well. It's got a very dark tone like Kara No Kyoukai and tackles alot of the same themes as well.
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MaxSouth
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Pace and talkativeness at times are certainly issues of this show, however, it is much better than by far most other shows in terms of not being insultingly stupid.
Considering outstanding visual arts, this show overall is definitely A-, not B+. Psychologically, A-class mark means that this is "a must watch", and it truly is. |
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kpk
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Yes, but Saber don't get a very satisfying conclusion in HF nor dose Gilgamesh. |
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Juno016
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Vague spoilers for the Heaven's Feel route, but... spoiler[I felt that Saber's conclusion, while depressing and cruel, was done fittingly with the atmosphere of the route. Gilgamesh's was pretty sudden, and I couldn't tell if it was fitting for the route so much as just fitting for his character in an ironic way.] Besides, the route itself explores the setting and background of the series better than any other route (which makes sense, considering it's the last route--the other routes left some of this stuff open purposely so it could be explained in the last route). |
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jr240483
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Personally,what i think is that they should try making a series about Hollow Ataraxia or Type Extra.
However heaven's Feel sound interesting enough. Also it would be nuts if it turns out that Ilya is really Kiritsugu & Irisviel's daughter. Would make things really interesting if it was true,though it would definitely make things complicated when it come to the harem life shiro got himself into. |
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Dessa
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I'm not sure what you mean by "is really". It was explicitly stated in Fate/Zero that she is. |
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Chagen46
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Woah there, son. Spoilers. |
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dtm42
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Um, no, it's not a spoiler. It is very, very obvious. You'd have to be braindead if you didn't realise that the Fate/Zero Ilya was the same girl as the Fate/Stay Night Ilya. And heck, it is also revealed very early on in the show (one of the first scenes of the first episode if I recall correctly). Last edited by dtm42 on Wed Jul 11, 2012 4:12 am; edited 1 time in total |
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Chagen46
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I haven't watched Fate/Zero, I'm playing through the game. Though it DOES explain why Ilya insists on calling Shirou "Bro".
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Dessa
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Not sure why you're reading the discussion thread for a review of Fate/Zero, then. Especially when the review starts out by saying that there are Fate/stay night spoilers in it.
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Mad_Scientist
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If that's the case, stay far away from any Fate Zero threads like this, as there are some pretty major Fate Stay/Night spoilers in Fate Zero, and people are unlikely to spoiler tag them if they mention them because they aren't spoilers for Fate Zero itself. |
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Chagen46
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Thanks to overzealous fans I already know quite a few Fate/Stay Night spoilers anyway, so I didn't really feel the need to exercise caution. |
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Mad_Scientist
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Well, that was your mistake. In this case you can't really blame overzealous fans since the information in question was not a Fate Zero spoiler at all. I have no idea how far you are in Fate Stay/Night, but until you finish it, I'd once again suggest you stay far away from anything involving Fate Zero. There are many things revealed in the very first episode of Fate Zero that are huge spoilers for Fate Stay/Night, but for Fate Zero are no more a spoiler than "Naruto wants to become Hokage" is a spoiler for Naruto. Heck, simply describing the premise of the series and mentioning the names of the main characters is a Fate Stay/Night spoiler. So be careful. |
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