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vashfanatic
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Yeah, it's the 12th nomination but only first win, which surprised me, I thought for certain Kurosawa had won at some point in the past. http://oscar.com/oscarnight/winners/?pn=detail&nominee=Departures%20-%20Foreign%20Language%20Nominee |
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GATSU
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[Mod edit: Someone doesn't get it. This isn't a "Lets listen to GATSU b***h about American Industries" thread, so if that's all your going to add then you're done here. Move along, shows over. Say something that's actually relevant and not more of your insanely bias banter.]
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pparker
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Well, technically you could count Rashomon: RASHOMON (1951) -- Honorary Foreign Language Film Award. "To Rashômon [Japan] - voted by the Board of Governors as the most outstanding foreign language film released in the United States during 1951. [statuette]." I suppose it says something that the Academy was impressed enough to give an award to Kurosawa before they had the Best Foreign Film category. Maybe it even helped that category get created. They did not give multiple awards, either, so technically Kurosawa got the Oscar for Best Foreign Film. Japan received the same award two other times: SAMURAI, THE LEGEND OF MUSASHI (1955) -- Honorary Foreign Language Film Award GATE OF HELL (1954) -- Honorary Foreign Language Film Award Last edited by pparker on Mon Feb 23, 2009 12:16 am; edited 1 time in total |
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zanarkand princess
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Yeah I feel like I need to see Departures and La Maison en Petits Cubes now.
I bet we could argue all day though about how many anime films could beat the pants off of Pixar if they were given the respect they deserve but it doesn't work that way. If it did we could be looking at an Eva 2.0 nomination if it reaches the greatness of the part of the show it's adapting. |
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Keonyn
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Also understand this is an anime forum, populated by anime fans, so obviously that's going to be a popular opinion. However, popular opinion on the part of a loyal fanbase doesn't make it true. Personally, I would completely disagree with, I think very few anime would have stood a chance on level ground. To each their own though.
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Dernhelm
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this is almost like an upset. everyone expected "Waltz with Bashir" to win especially with the Gaza incident that happened just a while ago. so wow, big win for Japan tonight. (Hollywood, be haunted by that Japanese guy's words lol, "we will be back" lol.) |
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pparker
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What disappoints me, just a personal opinion, is the predominance of 3D CG. Frankly, Wall-E was the only one that impressed me at on a technical level. The others looked pretty low quality. I'm happy that La Maison en Petits Cubes won, because it is more classic animation. I would love to see Evangelion, or some of the other high quality anime, be considered. But the Academy seems dominated by the "cool" technology that Pixar and Disney employ for features. |
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zanarkand princess
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I'm not saying every DBZ movie and 80's OVA should stand a chance but stuff like Paprika, Perfect Blue, All of those non nominated Miyazaki movies, 5cm Per Second. Stuff like that. Movies that you would recommend on the basis that they are good movies and not just good anime. |
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Dernhelm
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did you see the other nominees in the Animation Short category? at least this Japanese traditional art beat out all that CGI and special visual effects, yeah? 
i also find it amusing (in the sarcastic and disappointed sense, mind you) how none of the Japanese feature films even made it in the 2008 animation montage, lol. |
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Tenchi
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Next year, Ponyo will almost certainly be nominated, but I wouldn't expect to see any more anime in the Best Animated Feature category after that until Hayao Miyazaki makes another film due to total lack of mainstream exposure of non-Miyazaki anime films, and that's not going to change in the near future.
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pparker
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The problem for anime films is:
"The award is only given if there are at least eight animated feature films (with a theatrical release in Los Angeles). " Since it's a U.S. award, not foreign, the film has to play in LA theaters. Unless a major studio licenses it, that's unlikely. The licensee has to consider whether or not the investment--possibly even having to pay for play ("renting the theater")--will give them any chance at being nominated. |
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zanarkand princess
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I think that might be asking for too much. This really is the only chance anime or anything having to do with it gets to shine in america though so I guess we should be happy. Japanese music gets ignored in the international categories at the Grammys, Naruto can't even win a Kids Choice Award  so we always hope that we get at least one Academy Award nomination.
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Craeyst Raygal
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Zanarkand Princess, while I won't make a blanket statement about all Pixar versus all of the anime industry (for instance, I do think either Oshii or Kawajiri deserved the 2000 Oscar) I will say that Wall-E is probably the MOST deserving animated film in several years.
Aside from that, honestly Pixar's films maintain a truly impressive level of writing quality and cleverness that's wholly enjoyable. The Toy Story movies, for instance, are some of the most emotional animated films I can think of. |
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Top Gun
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Not only that, but even those that do make themselves eligible by playing in LA often do so by having an incredibly limited screening, to the point where next to no one gets the chance to see them. It's rather difficult for the Academy to nominate a film whose existence they're barely aware of. I'd put the blame squarely on the domestic distributors, but I realize that, unless you're Disney pushing Ghibli, putting on the sort of widespread release that's necessary for mainstream exposure is about as cost-ineffective as it gets. |
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zanarkand princess
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I agree that Wall-E deserved the award. It was a good movie and had a theme familiar to many anime fans.....Robot love
But wasn't there a theatrical release of Ponyo planned for when it comes out here? If that's the case then odds are it will get a nomination especially if Pixar and Dreamworks aren't so busy. Then again Disney does have a new princess movie coming out this year right? |
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