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Kruszer
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Wait....how is this show even remotely similar to Death Note again? I mean if you want extremely stretched comparisons the more correct answer would have been The Bourne Identity.
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Unicorn_Blade
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The show is sure original. Does the fact that many people like it automatically makes it good? I could argue with that. I actually marathoned the whole thing in one day waiting impatiently for somethin extraordinary that never happened. I got through episodes that were there for no good reasons and elements that I found did not really fit in. Most of the characters seem to be there solely for the puprose of creating a background for the main two; the makers went through the trouble of introducing them, and then left them there doing not much. I might be the only one out there, but I also found Saki quite irritating. Also, I had an impression that the makers tried to make some of the characters original so bad that they overdid it, like is the were saying, what else can we do to make them even weirder. Absurd works in some films, here there was no reason for abusing it. The series mixes a lot of things that work together quite well, but some bits seem completely out of place when put right next to each other. I was sitting there thinking "what is the point of THAT?", only to find out later there was none. You can argue this is what makes the series original, I thought it was chaotic. Eden tried to be too many things at the same time maybe. And they really overkilled the Johnny joke... It was funny for the first, second or third time, but once it crept up for the 1000th time it got a tad boring. Last edited by Unicorn_Blade on Tue Aug 31, 2010 3:03 am; edited 2 times in total |
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Ian K
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Kruszer:
The main character gets a super-powered MacGuffin that allows him to turn his desires into reality, and he uses it to outsmart opponents. There is a guide that assists him in learning how to make the best use of this power (Ryuk/Juize) and an ultimate goal that the hero is trying to attain (god/messiah). This isn't all there is to Eden of the East, just all that was interesting  .
U_B: It's you and me against the world, it seems. Bring it, world. |
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Darksorrow29
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What is "good" depends upon the viewer. I think Key was saying a lot of people liked it and thought it was original. Does that automatically make it good? Of course not. What is "good" to you depends on what you like. There isn't a universal "good" that everyone agrees upon. Except for K-ON........ I kid I kid. |
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Unicorn_Blade
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Ian K:
Of course I understand that, but part of the argument also implied that because so many people liked it and because it was such a successful series, it means that people who happened not to like it didn't understand it or cant appreciate it properly. I think I didn't miss a bit, I just found it didn't hold together well. |
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Kruszer
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Another thing that can kill something for someone is personal expectations or "hype". To me this sounds like the problem. You had an image of it beforehand, it didn't live up to that image, so you were underwhelmed. Personally, I go into everything with practically a blank slate. I watch a trailer or read a plot synopsis and that's about it.
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Unicorn_Blade
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Not really. I had no image of it or whatsoever. And I didn't hear anything about it before I started watching. It was a spontaneous decision based on the fact that I liked the animation style, and I really liked the first episode. I just didn't like what followed as much.
Afterwards I looked at the ratings and I wondered whether I watched the same show as everyone else
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Unicorn_Blade
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Not really. I had no image of it or whatsoever. And I didn't hear anything about it before I started watching. It was a spontaneous decision based on the fact that I liked the animation style, and I really liked the first episode. I just didn't like what followed as much.
Afterwards I looked at the ratings and I wondered whether I watched the same show as everyone else
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Spastic Minnow
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Eden of The East (TV) (It's all on Hulu now)
Eden of The East the Movie I: The King of Eden Eden of The East the Movie II: Paradise Lost A rewatch of the TV series and first movie. I have to say that splitting the movie from the series was silly. The movies should have been made into a second season. The length of the movies came out to approximately the lenght of 8-9 episodes, if they embellished them a bit more, especially giving more time to the Eden staff (who get very short-changed in the movies), maybe a couple stand alone or side stories, leave more room for levity and there you have another 11-13 episodes instead of two movies that do not stand up well by themselves. The example of this is my first watch of King of Eden, I posted about it in this thread a few months back. watched 5t without having rewatched the series and I really complained about it. It had no reintroduction of minor characters and the movie simply stops without a good bookending event. However as a complete story, marathoned in a couple days, I really liked it. The final resolution of the second movie worked well for me- it seemed a bit silly that Juiz would interpret "Being a King" as spoiler["Being an eventual Prime Minister...by relation of being a bastard son of another PM"] but how Akira resolves this was neat and I think it was fitting that spoiler[ nothing was really solved, Mr. Outside's goal really was blatantly unrealistic- what the show demonstrated was that people have strikingly different ideas of what "saving the nation" meant and not every one of them was bad- so all that could really be said was a message of tolerance and a heroic display of taking responsibility.] And as hinted above, if there was a problem with the movies it was that the format was rather constriting compared to the episodic series. Everything was so tightly focused on figuring out what what was going on that there was no room to have fun with characters like Pantsu, Micchon and the rest. And, oh.... personally so happy Funimation couldn't or didn't bother licensing the Oasis song for the opening credits of the series past the first episode-- I got so sick of that song after just a couple listens, so once is PLENTY. Last edited by Spastic Minnow on Sat Nov 20, 2010 9:37 pm; edited 1 time in total |
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GeminiDS85
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I have a question that hopefully someone can answer: spoiler[ Did the show ever address how Kuroha Diana Shiratori was able to grow wings and fly?] I’m thinking I must have fallen asleep when this was explained because I’m completely flummoxed by it and its relation to the plot.
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Dorcas_Aurelia
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spoiler[Holograms.] If you go back and watch the end of the scene, there's some text on her phone indicating a charge to her account for the service she used. The details of how it worked and how she actually did make her exit from the room aren't clarified, but I'm thinking spoiler[a helicopter picked her up, maybe?]
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GeminiDS85
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Thank you for pointing that out, Dorcas_Aurelia.
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Guren Alchemist4
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Do you guys think that there will be a noticeable difference between the blu-ray and dvd release from Funimation? I'm having a hard time deciding which to order.
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Lil Kis
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Well I just bought the complete series of Eden of the East. I haven't watched this show yet but I heard it ends on a cliffhanger. I also heard that there is 2 movies of Eden of the East being made that take place after the show is over. Now will these 2 movies come over to the united states dubbed or not? Also are they already available in Japan? I really don't wanna watch this show until I have the complete series meaning the show and the 2 movies. So when do the 2 movies come over to the United States dubbed? Thanks
Also how good is this show? On animenewsnetwork.com they gave the story a A saying it was the best anime of the year. Do you think that too? What is soo special about this anime without any spoilers. Thanks |
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Key
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I have moved this post to this thread from a separate thread because series-dedicated threads are the places to ask such questions. The first and second movies were in theaters in Japan in late 2009 and early 2010 respectively. Both have been licensed by Funimation, though I don't believe a release date for them has been set yet. As for how good the series is? It's certainly among the best series of the year and one of the most original. |
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