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Jason Thompson's House of 1000 Manga - The Seven Deadly Sins of Manga: Lust

I completely forgot "I Don't Like You At All, Big Brother" got licensed. There's no way I'll ever see a copy of that at a B&M book store ever.

and the USA wins creepier single digit girls explotation by a landslide with under 10 beauty pageant's especially the "dance routines"


(Goes to throwup after seeing one by accident)

At least manga is just drawings.

Hot Gimmick was at least enjoyable in terms of a page clenching teen soap-opera drama that was almost a realistic setting, but I dunno, I would have gone with Kanoko Sakurakoji's Black Bird. Last I heard the sex scene was no less than 29 pages long. I couldn't stick with that series more than a volume though because the spineless heroine and the dominate lead made my stomach turn, but that apparently didn't stop American girls from making it one of the best selling manga here.

Although I must question, how do you have no qualms about a nine year old girl sexual lusting after another nine year old girl which also happens in Kodomo no Jikan. Last time I checked Kuro would like to do a lot more with Rin than just be friends.

I like sex in teen manga. Most shoujo manga makes reference to it every now and then and shows a tastefully scene drawn here or there, but growing up it was refreshing to see that manga at least wasn't trying to put off that teens were all participating in abstinence like everything else in society was trying to drill into our heads at the time, or that (surprise!) girls are interested and curious in sex too.

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I completely forgot "I Don't Like You At All, Big Brother" got licensed. There's no way I'll ever see a copy of that at a B&M book store ever.

I actually saw it in the flesh at a Barnes and Noble a while ago. I was completely stunned, myself.

I don't know if you're on the forums,Mr. Thompson,but you've just provided a public service. Now I know which manga to avoid like the plague.

I've read a few volumes of Kodomo no Jikan when I heard about the psychological aspect of it, how it does explore what Rin's background was for her to be trying to express her self sexually.

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I've read a few volumes of Kodomo no Jikan when I heard about the psychological aspect of it, how it does explore what Rin's background was for her to be trying to express her self sexually.

The Achilles Heel of the series, unfortunately. The biggest reason why there was an outcry was because Rin's reasons for her behavior weren't going to be introduced until further into the volumes, so in the meantime, people were being treated to comments, quasi-panty shots (bloomers), and verbal threats of child molestation accusations.

I've read comments from many people who state Rin's behavior isn't one of sexuality, but of attention, and this was her way of getting it.

This doesn't mean crap to people who are wondering why a grown man is allowing a 9 year old girl to lick his finger to stop bleeding from a cut. I'd be hard pressed to say any grown man in an authority position would allow it to happen at all.

For me, this was the straw to break the back. I couldn't sit and watch this, even knowing full well there's a reason for the behavior. It explains Rin, but it didn't explain the teacher's reason (and there's no excuse for a teacher to explore a relationship with a woman through a 9 year old girl).

I'm sure many people found the story compelling to excuse it, but I couldn't. However, I wouldn't be so ignorant to ban the publication, the result of mass hysteria from people who believe drawings are real.

I will say this, though: the implications of a man being threatened with child molestation is one thing I would have stood to have edited out of the series.

Most of you are too young to remember, but in the 80s, TV shows decided to tackle the subject as damn near every sitcom had a "Tell someone if you get touched" episode, which resulted in many men having to address these accusations as kids figured out they could lie and cause all sorts of trouble.

The impact was so devastating, we're still seeing the ramifications of it today. I'm betting the majority of you instantly think "grown man + little girl = pedo".

Many people around here use the word lolita as though its a synonym for pedophile.

Be sure to thank NBC for their wondrous "The More You Know" smear campaign.

I'm kind of wary of your comments on the publicity of child molestation, I'm sure many of the PSAs or attempts to bring it up where not that smart with how they handled it, but I do not see harm...

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In terms of sheer porn, there was some really explicit stuff published by Media Blasters and the now-defunct company DramaQueen, although nowadays publishers seem to be playing it much safer

You know, I've kind of been noticing this too. Maybe it's just a sign that BL publishers are realizing that they don't need to limit themselves to strictly hardcore stuff to sell books. Not that hardcore stuff won't also sell but many fans will pick up a well-done love story even if it's not 18+. I do specifically mourn Drama Queen's loss though (or should I say "indefinite hibernation", as we did eventually get Junk! and Missing Road in-- hmm, 2011 or 2010?-- though I do remember having to order it directly from their website); I've never gotten a DQ book I didn't like.

Mesonoxian Eve wrote:

Sewingrose wrote: I've read a few volumes of Kodomo no Jikan when I heard about the psychological aspect of it, how it does explore what Rin's background was for her to be trying to express her self sexually. The Achilles Heel of the series, unfortunately. The biggest reason why there was an outcry was because Rin's reasons for her behavior weren't going to be introduced until further into the volumes, so in the meantime, people were being treated to comments, quasi-panty shots (bloomers), and verbal threats of child molestation accusations. I've read comments from many people who state Rin's behavior isn't one of sexuality, but of attention, and this was her way of getting it. This doesn't mean crap to people who are wondering why a grown man is allowing a 9 year old girl to lick his finger to stop bleeding from a cut. I'd be hard pressed to say any grown man in an authority position would allow it to happen at all. For me, this was the straw to break the back. I couldn't sit and watch this, even knowing full well there's a reason for the behavior. It explains Rin, but it didn't explain the teacher's reason (and there's no excuse for a teacher to explore a relationship with a woman through a 9 year old girl). I'm sure many people found the story compelling to excuse it, but I couldn't. However, I wouldn't be so ignorant to ban the publication, the result of mass hysteria from people who believe drawings are real. I will say this, though: the implications of a man being threatened with child molestation is one thing I would have stood to have edited out of the series. Most of you are too young to remember, but in the 80s, TV shows decided to tackle the subject as damn near every sitcom had a "Tell someone if you get touched" episode, which resulted in many men having to address these accusations as kids figured out they could lie and cause all sorts of trouble. The impact was so devastating, we're still seeing the ramifications of it today. I'm betting the majority of you instantly think "grown man + little girl = pedo". Many people around here use the word lolita as though its a synonym for pedophile. Be sure to thank NBC for their wondrous "The More You Know" smear campaign.

The Teacher appears to be sort of the generic harem spineless wimp in adult form and is easily steamrolled by more aggressive personality types, even if they are coming from his nine-year old student.
Even still, he clearly does not endorse Rin's behaviour in any respect, and does what he can to try and make her stop.

And I do *not* want this to become the topic of the thread instead of manga, but I do have to say:
I'm kind of wary of your comments on the publicity of child molestation, I'm sure many of the PSAs or attempts to bring it up where not that smart with how they handled it, but I do not see harm in bringing to light the very real problem of child molestation, what with 15% of sexual assault victims in the United States being under the age of 12.
There probably were cases where kids were not aware of what they were truly accusing adults of and in situations where no abuse was taking place. Regardless I don't think those incidents counteract the very real good that was done by publicising the horror of child molestation.

I think BL is rightly disqualified since the point is the sex, but I feel like the BL novels of Narise Konohara are a good example of some of the sneak-up-on-you-style porn you mention here. They start off fairly standard and low impact, to the point where you might start nodding off, then she'll pull out the most absurd fetishes I've ever seen. Or terrible abuse storylines that are so offensive I want to throw the book away.