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CANAAN (TV).

Allright, sorry for trying to do a detailed breakdown of first impressions instead of shouting "OMG its soooo great I'm in love".

Ausdoerrt wrote:

Allright, sorry for trying to do a detailed breakdown of first impressions instead of shouting "OMG its soooo great I'm in love".

First impressions are great, it's just odd to find such a negative reaction to a show that many would agree has a lot going for it. But be my guest. However, realize that if you're going to blatantly say you don't like something in a crowd of people who consider that something quality, you have to be prepared for some debate. There's no need to get upset about it. In fact, for first impressions it's wonderful to get a wide range of impressions. What's annoying is having people continue to watch a show they think is bad and then write tangents to annoy the rest of us (not you).

What is not so subjective, however, is animation quality. I know slim to none about techniques involved in animation (I wish I knew more, and I think I'm starting to pick some things up) so I tend to leave that out of my comments unless it's a generalization. I think that's the comment people are most upset about. It's fine if you think the characters, plot, etc. are average. However there were tons of well-animated details, such as the crowd and even the dexterity of Canaan's hands when she's switching cartridges. You just don't see that kind of detail or fluidness every day.

It sure did have as many good things (the ones you described) about animation as it did bad things (CG implementation as poor as I haven't seen since Blassreiter or Origins), and that's why I gave episode 1 an "average" impression about animation.

Hopefully they will cater to that expectation, and give us some proper combat to salivate over.

It was just way too confusing. It through us into the deep end, and I had no idea what was going on, who the factions were, and why those factions I didn't even know were fighting. A good way to start a show is to introduce a main character or two, and a setting or two, and use them as reference points when further characters and settings are introduced. A narrator or other means to quickly convey plot information is also helpful. CANAAN gave us too little backstory and way too many characters.

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It was just way too confusing. It through us into the deep end, and I had no idea what was going on, who the factions were, and why those factions I didn't even know were fighting. A good way to start a show is to introduce a main character or two, and a setting or two, and use them as reference points when further characters and settings are introduced. A narrator or other means to quickly convey plot information is also helpful. CANAAN gave us too little backstory and way too many characters.

I disagree. I actually prefer the "throw me into the deep end" approach as I usually have no trouble "swimming". To me it's a far better hook than if they did something standard like you described. I'm more likely to anticipate and watch more if there is more of an element of mystery. On the other hand sometimes series throw you into the deep end with cement shoes on like Tytania which jumps arround way too much and intros way too many characters at once. I'm not a fan of something to that extreme. Also I hate narrators. No series should ever have them, they're redundant.

dtm42 wrote:

It was just way too confusing. It threw us into the deep end, and I had no idea what was going on, who the factions were, and why those factions I didn't even know were fighting. A good way to start a show is to introduce a main character or two, and a setting or two, and use them as reference points when further characters and settings are introduced.

I disagree. I actually prefer the "throw me into the deep end" approach as I usually have no trouble "swimming". To me it's a far better hook than if they did something standard like you described. I'm more likely to anticipate and watch more if there is more of an element of mystery...Also I hate narrators. No series should ever have them, they're redundant.

Also the director of this directed the Bones flick Sword of the Stranger which had an amazing last battle.. and the director himself key animated Spike Vs Vincent at the end of the Cowboy Bebop movie.

I disagree. I actually prefer the "throw me into the deep end" approach as I usually have no trouble "swimming". To me it's a far better hook than if they did something standard like you described. I'm more likely to anticipate and watch more if there is more of an element of mystery.

Oh, for the future in most action anime flicks they tend to tell the viewers the entire story in the first episode or first 2 episodes. The rest of the anime just fills the loop holes and answers questions like why and how. Black Lagoon is a perfect example. First 2 episodes tell everything. The rest of the episodes in that series were just explaining the views of the main characters presented in the first episode in more depth which is what is going to happen in this anime. I guarantee it.

I think the real issue is how most anime use narrators. I like Kyon in Haruhi. A narrator that isn't completely neutral is nice. Another option is to make more use of free indirect discourse when narrating. You don't see it too much in anime, but I'd love to see it done well.