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jr240483
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You are not the only one having some serious deja vu as well. well I wont be doing what he did at all otherwise I cant call myself a true otaku. otakus dont do that crap. what it really means to be one is to pass on the real joy of being an anime otaku to the next generation. NOT destroy it's meaning or use it for perverness. I just hope this does not ruin the industry's reputation to parental advocates after the conterversy of the 90's, especially since lawmakers are hell bent on banning some content. |
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Mr. sickVisionz
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15 years seems like a bit much imo. I know he broke the law, but you'll never convince me that there was any trickery on his part.
I have a sister who is 13 and I can say that unless she was mentally challenged, you're not going to be able to trick a 14 year old into going on some epic six week Twilight/Anime-con spree. I think both parties knew exactly what they were getting into. The guy wanted to have sex with a minor and the minor thought she could use the lure of sex to go on a six week, all-expenses paid anime/Twilight trip. 15 years seems like overkill considering that. It's not like this guy is hanging out at grocery stores waiting to come across a toddler that got lost and is luring them into his van with candy. In a year this girl would be legally able to own and drive a car in the state I live in. She'd be able to legally have a job. The jump from a girl being mature enough to handle the responsibility that comes from that, but stupid enough to get "lured" into a six week vacation with some guy she met on the internet... something isn't adding up imo. |
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dtm42
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I don't know if she was being abused at home. However, there is no doubt the girl went willingly. And there's no doubt that the photo her parents supplied to police was laughably out of date. It showed her as a sweet girl of twelve-ish with brown hair. Not only was the girl actually fourteen years of age by now, but she had dyed her hair black before she even ran away, and had basically become a goth or something. Black lipstick and black clothes plus a few piercings and heavy makeup around the eyes, if I remember correctly. A little darl she wasn't. So the parents obviously tried to keep up the pretence that she was a good girl who had been kidnapped by Big Nasty Criminal, even though by supplying such an outdated photo to police they made it harder to find her. They both stole the money from his ex-boss, and they both stole a van I believe. Though she absolutely needed to be taken away from him, she was his willing partner in crime. But I think the real lesson that should be learnt here is that if you ever decide to go on the run, for god's sakes do it in a properly registered and licensed car with a current WOF, and make sure you obey the road rules. So many criminals go back to jail because they ran a red light or were speeding or because their car's lights weren't working properly. Jeez, so simple to do, and yet they stuff it up or get lazy. There is a saying/mantra that generally goes "if you get caught, its only because you were stupid, lazy or both. It doesn't matter if there was seemingly nothing you could have done better, because there's ALWAYS something you can do better". Oh, and fifteen years is too much. There are baby murderers who get less. |
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evilnekohilda
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While I'm inclined to agree with you on the fact that both parties knew what the others motives were, it doesn't excuse the man. Even if the girl should be old enough to exercise some common sense, she's still a minor that deserves to be protected by the law and the adult should be adequately punished. ALSO For those who feel the sentence was too harsh because worse crimes have resulted in shorter sentences... Perhaps it's that those other sentences aren't long enough, not that this one was too much? Just a thought. |
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Yoda117
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It's no different than the old "would you like some candy, little boy/girl?" meme that we all grew up with as a lesson to not trust strangers. It's called social engineering and in the hands of someone who knows how to use it, you'd be amazed as what you can get some people to do... often willingly. Sounds like there's more to the story here, but the guy had to know that regardless of what happened, he was going to be in huge legal trouble for this. The girl is just damn stupid, and lucky (to be alive... this could have ended much differently, and usually does). |
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SpacePope
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Um, no. Just no. Can we please get rid of excessive prison sentences in this country? We're #1 in the number of people in prison, both per capita and as an absolute number. That's a shameful thing to be #1 in.
This is EXACTLY what drives me crazy about arguing about the criminal justice system on the Internet. How do people get away with saying "they're responsible - throw them in jail for a long time" and also saying, "but the law we're throwing them in jail on for a long time is dumb and should be changed". fai[iawrh[0qwhgfiwhjtrf0wjgfi[0whjs[0aw!!!!! What the hell?!!! This is crazy! Why, why, WHY do people always say this?! You either agree with the law and/or penalty or you don't, and if you don't, then you don't say, "I think people should suffer the penalty under a law and/or penalty that I disagree with." That's absurd! I'd rip my hair out, but I'm bald already. Christ. EDIT: That's it, I'm assuming there's a big conspiracy on the Internet for people just to f*ck with me because they know it's one of my buttons. |
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pparker
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Yes, it is a conspiracy. I'm too tired too think up the words that fit NHK, but yes...  .
There is no inconsistency in saying that a person who commits a crime should expect to pay whatever price the law dishes out, and at the same time to disagree with the system as administered. I mean, can I list the things our legislatures decide that I disagee with, but have to live with, because unethical, idiot politicians keep buying each other's votes with millions in pork? I use my vote and other means to communicate my dissatisfaction with the system. But I also know if I commit a crime that I must, being subject to those laws, be willing to suffer the consequences if I am caught. It doesn't fly to knowingly commit a serious, premeditated crime by running across state lines with a minor for six weeks, and then afterwards complain that the punishment is too harsh. |
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mow123
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If I remember correctly, another adult lured a minor to a convention in Austin. One of my friends in his late 30's decided that it may not be a good idea to go that same convention by himself especially when most people at the con were on the outlook for people in the age range. It's a shame that news like this can cause collateral damage. |
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