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Shelf Life - Band of Brothers [2010-06-28]

Greed1914 wrote:

I'm not arguing about whether they said people shouldn't like it. I'm saying that it casts a negative light on it when one or the other is considered correct. If I tell you that your answer to a question is incorrect, then that means that there is something wrong with it. If I tell you it is correct, then that means that it is as it should be. Correctness implies that something is superior in some way over the alternatives. Would you rather be right most of the time, or wrong most of the time?

No matter how you justify your interpretation it does not matter. No one was talking about superiority here. You are the only one bringing that into the equation.

And for the record I think something that is correct or incorrect should be impartial and based on facts. It should have absolutely nothing to do with opinion which is where terms like superior come in.

Which is exactly why I've been trying to point out the problem with using the term "correct continuity." Each show has it's own contunuity with some overlapping aspects, but neither is correct in a factual sense. Correct leads to the idea that something is a fact, and the topic at hand is too debatable for it to be used.

And no, Dorcus_Aurelia actually brought the problem with using "correct continuity", and I simply chimed in with my support for that stance. Other people mentioned it, too.

Greed1914 wrote:

Which is exactly why I've been trying to point out the problem with using the term "correct continuity." Each show has it's own contunuity with some overlapping aspects, but neither is correct in a factual sense. Correct leads to the idea that something is a fact, and the topic at hand is too debatable for it to be used.

Actually when you are speaking about "canon" one series can be correct based on the definition of the term. In this case I think both series are correct based on the fact that they are in separate universes (although only the manga is the original creator's canon).

However I don't agree that saying something is not canon or not the correct continuity automatically means you are saying it is inferior.

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And no, Dorcus_Aurelia actually brought the problem with using "correct continuity", and I simply chimed in with my support for that stance. Other people mentioned it, too.

You are right about Dorcas_Aurelia being the first to bring it up. I apologize.

However what other people are discussing is not whether the term correct continuity has anything to do with superiority but whether this term applies to the two different FMA series. This is something that can be argued using facts not opinions.

@ wandering-dreamer
Since you apparently like TV Tropes, I would like to refer you to to this page. Alternate continuities are canonical within their own continuity, but not canonical with respect to each other. It's really as simple as that.

Dorcas_Aurelia wrote:

wandering-dreamer wrote: Therefore, all FMA written by Arakawa is canon, the parts that deviate from what she wrote (ie, deviate from the manga) are not canon. You can still like them perfectly well but they are not the correct continuity. (Emphasis mine) Now that's just being insulting. The implication you're making there is that because the first series didn't specifically match Arakawa's story, it is inherently inferior. Also, your quibbling over what qualifies as canon undermines the point, especially given that the original author had input into the resolution of the series, muddying the waters.

See, that's the attitude that I've been railing against ever since Brotherhood was first annonced. The idea that following the manga is automatically better. As I understand it, when manga is used as a source for anime, it's always something of an adpatation. Some are looser, some are tighter, and it's not the reletive cloeseness that determines quality, but the actual show itself.