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Shelf Life - Breakfast of Champions

Oh boy, this thread calls for:

The issue here isn't that she disliked it because the lack of subtlety bothered her too much (OH NO, VALID CRITICISM OF AN ALL TOO COMMON FLAW IN ANIME! I am so offended.)

It's that she claimed that a voice actor for one of the characters was its only redeeming quality while she, I quote, "dumped on the animation quality" even though anyone with even the tiniest amount of animation knowledge should realize that it took far moare skill to draw and animate than the average anime. Even if the disliked its overall look, there's a pretty big difference between personally disliking the style of a work and believing that it's poorly done. A reviewer who is unable to notice above average animation quality should not be reviewing animation.

Yeah...except that Erin actually has worked as an animator, so to suggest that she has no knowledge of animation is laughable. She defended her position on the animation of Casshern Sins on last weeks Shelf Life forum by the way. If it bugs you that much, maybe you should go mosey on over and read it and find out why she doesn't like the animation on Casshern Sins. It's definitely a lot more constructive that just blindly accusing her of not knowing what she's talking about.

fightbait wrote:

Casshern Sins was a boring cartoon. The simple fact and bottom line that you think it's an anime masterpiece clearly shows that you have no clue what a truly great, carefully crafted, artistic Japanese animation is.

We will stop with these kind of comments right now, as they're not only (at the least) borderline insulting, but they also practically invite an escalation to flaming. If you want to disagree that it's a masterpiece, fine, but this isn't the way to do it. This also goes for the "cartoon" discussion, too.

Concerning the series in question, I had my full say on it in my own review, so I'll only reiterate what I said in that response thread: I actually feel, in retrospect, that I may have underrated CS by only giving it a B for writing and a B+ overall, and reading Erin's review doesn't change that impression. That means I do, of course, utterly disagree with most of what Erin has said about the series in both reviews (except that I do agree with her about that weird dream episode focusing on Lyuze), but I don't have a problem with either review because I can also easily see how someone could have the kind of extreme negative reaction to CS that she did. Consider mine the "in favor of" take on the series and hers the "against" take.

And, for the record, I also generally try to avoid reading Erin's reviews when she gets to a title first that I'm planning to review. I don't like being influenced by a peer's review, either.

to bad people will end up seeing her first (since the she reviewed the first bluray before you did both) and end up avoiding. It's a great show and one of the best of 2008. now i know people are entitled to their own opinion but the majority seem to love the show so who's right and who's wrong?

I want to watch Gaogaigar in my pajamas on a Saturday morning and eat sugary cereal. Fortunately, I can watch it on a Saturday night drinking beer¹ and still feel as if I'm nine years old on a Saturday morning. I don't even think kids can watch cartoons on Saturday morning any more.

to bad people will end up seeing her first (since the she reviewed the first bluray before you did both) and end up avoiding. It's a great show and one of the best of 2008. now i know people are entitled to their own opinion but the majority seem to love the show so who's right and who's wrong?

now i know people are entitled to their own opinion but the majority seem to love the show so who's right and who's wrong?

now i know people are entitled to their own opinion but the majority seem to love the show so who's right and who's wrong?

I love Kaiba, too bad it's not available legally.

Keyl wrote:

now i know people are entitled to their own opinion but the majority seem to love the show so who's right and who's wrong?

If one is willing to classify a person's opinion as a thing of a subjective sort, as is fortunately quite common on this board, then one must either admit that every opinionated person is right — including both Erin and Casshern Sins fans — or else that it is not possible for a person to be right or wrong in this context.