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GATSU
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Yueh:
It's fairly average at bookstores near me, but comic stores in my area rarely see female customers.
Yes and no. These companies are obviously trying to repeat the same success of certain titles like Inu Yasha, Negima, and Fruits Basket with many similar titles, but unlike CMX, they can afford to lose a few sales off a particular series, since they already have a niche in the market.
No, just the books which are poorly marketed.
Outside of Kikaider, I'm not really that familiar with CMX's line-up.
Just the sales rank of their titles on Amazon is dwarfed by Fruits Basket. They barely make the Bookscan list. |
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Abarenbo Shogun
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"Who Watches the Watchmen?" (sorry, had to say it.) But to be fair, the last few years of the Direct Sales market has gone pretty stagnent compared to the boons of the past. Anyone remeber when Comic Book Companies shelled out Variant Covers for their First Releases due to "Investment Speculation?" Wildstorm with 13 Variant Covers for Gen 13 and 8 Covers for DV8? Heck, I think those are still records in the Comic Book Biz. (Let's not forget the "premium" stuff Chaos! Comic made for their properties. I still have some of their Foil Stuff sitting in storage somewhere.) Howabout the "Bad Girl Craze" where every company touted lead female characters with enormous bust sizes that would rival the Sisters in TenTen? How many can you name from that time that still exist today? I'm betting less than 10. But those are in the past, and even comics stll have to shrug off the mantra that Comic Books are the realm of such "Superheroes" like Batman, Superman, X-Men, Fantastic Four, etc. I mean, did you even know Ben Dunn (from those "How to Draw Manga" books) made Golddiggers, or that there was a Vertigo Line where comics pushed the boundries of common decency?? spoiler[I mean, where do you see a Fallen Preacher, a Vampire, and a Hooker walk on the same pages? Or see a Fat Pope-ish figure die by falling out of a chopper and crushing one of his followers? Or a Crime Boss doing "Family Business" on the toilet?]
Okay, explain to me why Teens wouldn't love to see Gorey Violence w/or Full-Frontal Nudity? Regardless if you shrink-wrap it and put anti-theft devices on the book, Teens are still gonna get their mits on it one way or another. After all, nobody reads Playboy or Hustler for the Articles, right? |
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GATSU
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Abarenbo: Teens want to be entertained, and can get porn and snuff for free on the internet. And you yourself pointed out that the American industry couldn't make any money on well-endowed female superheroes. Negima does well, because of the comedy. Yes, if they censored the fanservice, Del Rey would've probably been hurt by it. But that's because it actually has to do with the writing. Tenjho Tenge is just using fan service to sell a poorly-plotted series, and the fact that no one's buying it shows how unappealing it is without the T&A. DC was hoping to capture a wider market share by censoring TenTen, but the kids want manga made for them, not dumbed down for them. That's why a lot of R-rated movies cut down to PG 13 fail. Because they don't appeal to anyone other than the marketing people.
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Abarenbo Shogun
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Actually, I only pointed out the fads, not the economic impacts done by each fad. While both ultimately failed (as does all fads at one point or another) they still managed to make a few bankable assets for companies. Occassionaly you might find a company do variants, but not in the major frequency as is now. Plus many companies re-evaluated their marketing plans and changed for the better. The Bad Girl craze might be dead, but some survivors still exist. Witchblade still is one of Top Cow Comics major properties for example. And there is still a niche market for such females (granted it's more of a B-movie quality type of a deal). One surprising story is that Chaos! Comics (Home to such Bad Girls like Lady Death, Purgatori, and Chastity) once boasted a huge Female Fanbase. And to be prefectly honest, I wouldn't be surprised that some of those Girls that dressed up as Purgatori in the back of some of those Comics switched over to Cosplay. I mean, some of them were THAT GOOD. If I didn't clarify that much before, then my sincere apologies. |
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midori kou
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I think the main difference why "manga" seems more superior than American comics nowadays is because the amount of series that are being produced. However, you have to consider social culture. In Japan, you have more literate people and are working more hours than in the US. To work with this, capitalist society compensated by focusing on reading material as equally as visual media to create a market that would benefit from it. It just happened that different types of genres that exist in ordinary literature came with it.
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