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NEWS: My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic Has Manga in the Works


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Fennekin



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PostPosted: Wed Mar 27, 2013 4:32 pm Reply with quote
Why do they have to make a manga about it? Can't they just make an American comic?
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Keonyn wrote:

I guess it depends on what you consider a Brony. I appreciate the show and find it amusing and well made. I don't buy the merchandise or get desktop wallpaper of it or run around talking about it or anything or drawing fan art or reading/writing fan fic or any of that. I just think it's a good show and I don't see how that is a problem or hard to understand. So in the grand scheme of the fandom I'm pretty low tier, but do I like the show? Sure.

Heck, I frankly find some of the fanbase to be overzealous and outright annoying, but that doesn't detract from my own appreciation of the show and its qualities. Heck, I often feel the same way about many anime/manga fans and the even more extreme Japanophiles amongst them. Any major fanbase has that highly visible excessive sub-group that tends to cast a shadow over the whole fanbase.

I personally like seeing that the show is expanding to other markets and mediums, and I really don't get some of the hate that is cast its way. Just because the show has a large fanbase and someone might not personally like the show doesn't really justify some of the hate and venom. If you don't like it, simply don't watch it (or read it in this case), it isn't going to cause you any harm by existing.


Seconded 100%. The crazy fans are, well, crazy, but I find myself very anti-anti-Brony first and foremost as the older equivalents of children screaming "eww, cooties!" on a schoolyard playground.

This was/is a successful kid's show and now it's spreading a bit, it's as simple as that. Those actively against that would be better off paying attention to what is for them and what they do like.


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PostPosted: Wed Mar 27, 2013 4:37 pm Reply with quote
penguintruth wrote:
My Little Pony Can't Be This Rage-Inducing!, coming this Spring!


My Two Subcultures Couldn't Be More Similar While Not Realizing It!
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Soundmonkey44



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PostPosted: Wed Mar 27, 2013 4:49 pm Reply with quote
Fennekin wrote:
Why do they have to make a manga about it? Can't they just make an American comic?


There already is an american comic published by IDW & its AWESOME!!! But i'm guessing Bushiroad/Hasbro wants a manga in Japan the same reason Disney wanted a Stitch manga and Mattell wanted a Barbie Manga, more exposure/expansion for the property.


Quote:
My Two Subcultures Couldn't Be More Similar While Not Realizing It!


Quoted for TRUTH! Laughing


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Tanteikingdomkey



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PostPosted: Wed Mar 27, 2013 5:08 pm Reply with quote
Zac wrote:
penguintruth wrote:
My Little Pony Can't Be This Rage-Inducing!, coming this Spring!


My Two Subcultures Couldn't Be More Similar While Not Realizing It!

can we make this the mod (or at least zac) quote of the year or is it to soon
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 27, 2013 5:10 pm Reply with quote
I've got a question that I'd like answered. Could someone please tell me what a "brony" is? I have no idea what that is and I've seen it mentioned often here.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 27, 2013 5:18 pm Reply with quote
Snomaster1 wrote:
I've got a question that I'd like answered. Could someone please tell me what a "brony" is? I have no idea what that is and I've seen it mentioned often here.


It was basically a label given to male fans of MLP.
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There's no good/fair reason why US/international comics bomb in Japan, while in France manga is a huge part of their comic industry


Of course there is: their manga market is actually strong. They have one of, if not the strongest printed comic market in the world. They have no demand, need, or desire for outside comics because manga gives them what they want. It's the same way America doesn't have tons of Foreign films playing across the country and they tend to only get limited runs, Hollywood is the dominate film industry so they have no need for foreign films like how most other countries show American films. America has movies, Japan has comics.
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@Alexander

Uh, that wasn't what they were saying. They're simply saying that there isn't a huge demand for US/other foreign comics in Japan because the manga industry is currently strong in the domestic market. This isn't some argument about the power of a country's media influence over the world, it's just that western comics aren't a very profitable niche, so making a manga is more likely to be successful than simply translating the US comics.
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zeo1fan wrote:

'Mature' and 'Down-To-Earth'? Clannad billabongs between manipulatively fetishized innocence and tragedy porn without any of the narrative structure of a tragedy to justify such. It's heavily Pathos over Logos (though it does have Ethos with regards to how to make a Moe series attractive to the people who'd enjoy it, dirty or no). Let's not pretend like Key is Takako Shimura here. CLANNAD is aimed at the type of anime fan who's squeamish about women to the point that they bury themselves in dating sims and tissue boxes to avoid feeling 'unclean'.


A) You are looking for the term "ping-pongs"

B) Please elucidate on Clannad's use of Pathos, Logos and Ethos. Truly, I feel you are an expert on this topic.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 27, 2013 9:12 pm Reply with quote
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zeo1fan wrote:
They're both pretty sexist genres for the most part. Razz


I don't see how "moe" and "ecchi" are somehow "sexist."

For me, sexism is when REAL women are denied REAL opportunities in the work force or are looked down and denied equal treatment because they are female, NOT because of what they wear or how 2D females are portrayed in a fictional animated series. How they fictional characters are portrayed in shows and series of any medium has nothing to do with "equality" and distorts the original goal of REAL equality between the genders in the REAL world we all had in mind.

Also, there are many female Anime fans I know in Tumblr who enjoy "moe", "ecchi" and/or "hentai" series regularly? Are they being "sexist" to themselves? Obviously not. They just enjoy their good dose just like some of us guys do and thats that.

Its almost like me saying how "yaoi" is somehow a "sexist" genre girls indulge into because some of the sexually suggestive oneshots, doujins and manga, and how some men are portrayed. Obviously, there is nothing wrong with girls indulging in the genre, because its a FICTIONAL genre that portrays their desires and nothing more. There is no sexism in "Yaoi" and neither there is in "moe", "ecchi", "fanservice", and yes, "hentai", because there are merely fantasy that some of us enjoy.



Keonyn wrote:
I guess it depends on what you consider a Brony. I appreciate the show and find it amusing and well made. I don't buy the merchandise or get desktop wallpaper of it or run around talking about it or anything or drawing fan art or reading/writing fan fic or any of that. I just think it's a good show and I don't see how that is a problem or hard to understand. So in the grand scheme of the fandom I'm pretty low tier, but do I like the show? Sure.

Heck, I frankly find some of the fanbase to be overzealous and outright annoying, but that doesn't detract from my own appreciation of the show and its qualities. Heck, I often feel the same way about many anime/manga fans and the even more extreme Japanophiles amongst them. Any major fanbase has that highly visible excessive sub-group that tends to cast a shadow over the whole fanbase.

I personally like seeing that the show is expanding to other markets and mediums, and I really don't get some of the hate that is cast its way. Just because the show has a large fanbase and someone might not personally like the show doesn't really justify some of the hate and venom. If you don't like it, simply don't watch it (or read it in this case), it isn't going to cause you any harm by existing.


Well, fans are fans. You'll have overzelous fans in just about every fandom.

I honestly don't have a problem with MLP existing and never said I did. I never said I "hated" any of ya, and never criticized the show myself. However, I just think some of the "Bronies" should try to calm down a bit. They are really acting like some of the extreme Anime fans that were a decade ago by shoving their fandom down in other people's throats. Above all, I don't see why "Bronies" should get any more leeway than "Japanophiles." Sure they are some amongst both who are nice people and keep it too themselves but damn.

Remember that "Bronies: The Extremely Unexpected Adult Fans of My Little Pony" they made? I honestly fail to see a good reason why it was created, why its somehow a "good" thing and why we ought to learn about the "Fandom." I'd rather learn about the "production qualities" of the show than the fans themselves.

I liken the Brony documentary to "America's Greatest Otaku." They both show us their "fans" and try to give us a reason to accept them. I think that's a really bad strategy if you Bronies seek "acceptance." There's a better way to do so: just keep it to yourself and you're good to go. Only introduce your favorite series when someone's willing to hear it(or are "open-minded" to do so). Razz


Infantilization for the sake of fetishism is sexist. Sexism is defined as "Prejudice, stereotyping, or discrimination, typically against women, on the basis of sex." So...it does cover a bit more ground than you claim. On top of that, sexism is a two-way street. Men can be the victims of sexist portrayals and women can be sexist. As I said before, a lot of women do enjoy sexist fiction (50 Shades; Twilight) without even recognizing it as such. Moe is aimed at men who are intimidated by strong women to the point that they seek an artifice easier to handle than real women.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 27, 2013 9:14 pm Reply with quote
Agreed, as making a Manga as opposed to translating the U.S. comic just makes more sense, as Manga is to Japan what cheesy dime store romance novels are to the U.S. That is to say, they are every where and fairly cheap to produce, where as in the U.S. comics are a more niche market and it would probably cost the company in Japan more money to acquire the rights to re-print & translate the U.S. comic as opposed to just hiring some one to make their own version for a kids comic magazine.

And of course before anyone jumps on me that post is obviously not meant to insult either U.S. comics or manga *as i'm a super huge nerd for both* Just making a general statement, so yeah. Razz

But ahh yeah, speaking of translating, I do hope IDW, Hasbro themselves or someone localizes the manga down the line once it has a tokabon or two out, i'm sure just like the U.S. comic it would sale like hot cakes! *even if it ends up just being generic & cutesy*
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 27, 2013 9:15 pm Reply with quote
I should also point out that cheap cash-in manga are incredibly common. Tons of LNs and anime have them, and with a few exceptions they range from mediocre to truly terrible.
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