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NEWS: Kyoto Animation Unveils Swimming Team TV Anime Free! for July

I guess the "Ryan plan" is to wear us all out by posting stuff and soapboxing until we lose interest and go do something else. Must be nice to be unencumbered by employment.

Which goes to say, without seeing the other data points where DVD% is < 50%, we can't really draw the conclusion about female buyers and DVD sales conclusively. Plus, we already gave some concessions to exceptions, what can we really say about specific specimens without knowing when to make exceptions?

Not really.

Let me put something in perspective for you. Free already has more than 200 pieces of artwork on pixiv, with even the "western" art you're decrying getting a high amount of bookmarks. This is for a series that is airing in three months.

Hataraku Maou-sama, which is one of the more popular shows this season, only has a little more than 600 pieces of artwork. It's already been airing for four weeks.

I don't really know what you're expecting, but most people don't make fanart based on a commercial and a single PV. Yet they're doing it for Free.

"Already"? I don't think you understand how Japanese artists work.

And uh, since when is Maou one of the most popular anime this season? We're talking about this season with stuff like Oreimo, Railgun, and Shingeki, right? Stuff like Shingeki got 50 pages of pixiv art this month alone so far (and by this month I mean May, so basically 3 days)

TitanXL wrote:

And uh, since when is Maou one of the most popular anime this season? We're talking about this season with stuff like Oreimo, Railgun, and Shingeki, right? Stuff like Shingeki got 50 pages of pixiv art this month alone so far (and by this month I mean May, so basically 3 days)

All previously existing properties with a well established fanbase, entirely unlike Free. Anime-only adaptations do not get reams of fanart based solely on their character designs months before release. T&B had exactly none prior to the first ep airing, even though the PV and character designs had been out for far longer.

Or another example. How much fanart does Fantasista Doll have on pixiv right now? You know, it has cute character designs that should appeal to male otaku and is airing next season. I'll be nice and provide a link for you.

I wonder how much art Madoka had pre-airing? It of course exploded as soon as it aired, but I don't remember seeing much at all beforehand, and we had the character designs for a while.

Fencedude5609 wrote:

I wonder how much art Madoka had pre-airing? It of course exploded as soon as it aired, but I don't remember seeing much at all beforehand, and we had the character designs for a while.

Yeah, exactly. Here's another example of an anime-original with character designs and a PV airing next summer. Take a look at all that fanart.

musouka wrote:

Fencedude5609 wrote: I wonder how much art Madoka had pre-airing? It of course exploded as soon as it aired, but I don't remember seeing much at all beforehand, and we had the character designs for a while. Yeah, exactly. Here's another example of an anime-original with character designs and a PV airing next summer. Take a look at all that fanart.

Wait what is that from?

All previously existing properties with a well established fanbase, entirely unlike Free. Anime-only adaptations do not get reams of fanart based solely on their character designs months before release. T&B had exactly none prior to the first ep airing, even though the PV and character designs had been out for far longer.

Or another example. How much fanart does Fantasista Doll have on pixiv right now? You know, it has cute character designs that should appeal to male otaku and is airing next season. I'll be nice and provide a link for you.

Fencedude5609 wrote:

I wonder how much art Madoka had pre-airing? It of course exploded as soon as it aired, but I don't remember seeing much at all beforehand, and we had the character designs for a while.

Yeah, exactly. Here's another example of an anime-original with character designs and a PV airing next summer. Take a look at all that fanart.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gen'ei_o_Kakeru_Taiy%C5%8D

Its the big new original Aniplex anime next season.

RyanSaotome wrote:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gen'ei_o_Kakeru_Taiy%C5%8D Its the big new original Aniplex anime next season.

...I have literally never heard of this.

But I'm hype. I'm so hype.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TlvekoZr0n8

The PV looks pretty damn good too. Its also the Nanoha director, so thats got me hyped as well.

I like how you're literally grabbing any upcoming anime you can find with blatant disregard for the discussion context. Just because it's otaku doesn't mean it's going to sell or anything, especially if said shows have zero hype. For the record, I'm was referring to fujoshi stuff. Otaku don't produce anywhere near as much art as fujoshi do. Madoka's total art and doujinshi are a drop in the bucket compared to those male-focused shows fujoshi love have. Shows like Tiger & Bunny and Inazuma Eleven Go which aired after Madoka cuts in front of Madoka at the lunch line and steals its lunch money in the hallway if you compare their art haults. Then they play keep-away with its backpack while the teacher isn't looking. But if you insist, well, Doki Doki Precure had over 1000 images on Pixiv alone before it aired.