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HitokiriShadow
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Posted: Fri May 10, 2013 6:47 pm
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Fencedude5609 wrote: |
Otherwise, most "yuri" in H anime is girls who play with each other before they get a penis stuck in them. To say the least this is not particularly appreciated by yuri fans. |
And it seems like the bulk of the time, those penises are not going in with their consent.
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Keichitsu0305
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Posted: Fri May 10, 2013 6:48 pm
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In the end, everyone is watching some form of fanservice.
Doesn't really matter if we think we are underserviced, so long as the company makes money, it's all good~
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Fencedude5609
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Posted: Fri May 10, 2013 6:51 pm
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Keichitsu0305 wrote: | In the end, everyone is watching some form of fanservice.
Doesn't really matter if we think we are underserviced, so long as the company makes money, it's all good~ |
No its not "all good"
Christ.
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Chagen46
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Posted: Fri May 10, 2013 6:54 pm
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HitokiriShadow wrote: |
Fencedude5609 wrote: |
Otherwise, most "yuri" in H anime is girls who play with each other before they get a penis stuck in them. To say the least this is not particularly appreciated by yuri fans. |
And it seems like the bulk of the time, those penises are not going in with their consent. |
Yaoi has a problem with rape too--especially in (bad) fanfic. Not so different it seems.
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icetea00
Joined: 16 Jul 2012
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Posted: Fri May 10, 2013 6:59 pm
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Chagen46 wrote: |
Yaoi has a problem with rape too--especially in (bad) fanfic. Not so different it seems. |
Not just fanfic. I think commercial yaoi manga are even worse.
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Red Fox of Fire
Joined: 24 Jan 2010
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Posted: Fri May 10, 2013 7:45 pm
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Fencedude5609 wrote: | Protip: Women are a major portion of the yuri fanbase.
Something like 60+% of Yuri Hime's subscribers are female. |
This is true, though it should be noted that this is for legit, relationship-based yuri, not "two girls kissed, OMG HAWT!"
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Fencedude5609
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Posted: Fri May 10, 2013 7:56 pm
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Red Fox of Fire wrote: |
Fencedude5609 wrote: | Protip: Women are a major portion of the yuri fanbase.
Something like 60+% of Yuri Hime's subscribers are female. |
This is true, though it should be noted that this is for legit, relationship-based yuri, not "two girls kissed, OMG HAWT!" |
THATS WHAT I'M [expletive] TALKING ABOUT
Holy shit. That was my entire point about how most lesbian/yuri scenes in H anime aren't really "yuri" since they are "GIRL ON GIRL IS HOT" (but only if they also take penis like a good girl)
On the other hand, lets not pretend there isn't a large amount of actual Yuri smut. Both Yuri Hime and Tsubomi have had their fair share of smutty yuri mangas, and the SonoHanabira series of games has a VERY large female fanbase who are DEFINITELY into them for the yuri sexings.
There is a distinct tendency to label all porn as solely for men, absent the small amount of yaoi smut for the Fujoshi. Totally ignoring all the yuri smut that is legitimately aimed at female readers.
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Chagen46
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Posted: Fri May 10, 2013 8:14 pm
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Yes yes, Fence, you keep believing that tons of women read yuri.
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Fencedude5609
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Posted: Fri May 10, 2013 8:18 pm
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Chagen46 wrote: | Yes yes, Fence, you keep believing that tons of women read yuri. |
"tons" don't. But a large percentage of yuri fans (not "fans of girl-on-girl sex", per-se) are female.
Hell, the more "male oriented" imprint of Yuri Hime, Yuri Hime S, actually failed due to lack of interest and was rolled back into Yuri Hime proper.
Why don't you think that women make up a large percentage of yuri fans? Legit curious? Is it because your 17 years of life have made you an expert on the subject?
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Chagen46
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Posted: Fri May 10, 2013 8:24 pm
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Because it makes no sense for straight women to yuri smut. Lesbian women, yeah, but no straight women.
I'm just really sick of yuri being EVERYWHERE. I can't escape it. I can't go anywhere without people talking about it, wishing for it. It's tiring and I'm sick of not being able to watch a show without seeing some fanboys on a forum discuss how much they want to see the female characters scissor.
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Fencedude5609
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Posted: Fri May 10, 2013 8:28 pm
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Chagen46 wrote: | Because it makes no sense for straight women to yuri smut. Lesbian women, yeah, but no straight women.
I'm just really sick of yuri being EVERYWHERE. I can't escape it. I can't go anywhere without people talking about it, wishing for it. It's tiring and I'm sick of not being able to watch a show without seeing some fanboys on a forum discuss how much they want to see the female characters scissor. |
Wow thats amazingly not what we were even discussing.
Also I like how you completely dismissed the possibility of Bi women, despite allegedly being bi yourself.
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Vylash
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Posted: Fri May 10, 2013 8:33 pm
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Chagen46 wrote: |
I'm just really sick of yuri being EVERYWHERE. I can't escape it. |
You're doing literally everything wrong if you "can't escape" yuri, there are TONS of shows without yuri, only 2 shows this season have it at all, I'd hardly call that "everywhere"
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I'm sick of not being able to watch a show without seeing some fanboys on a forum |
You poor thing, I wasn't aware you were being tied down and forced to read forums, I'm so sorry.
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Chagen46
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Posted: Fri May 10, 2013 8:38 pm
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Quote: | You're doing literally everything wrong if you "can't escape" yuri, there are TONS of shows without yuri, only 2 shows this season have it at all, I'd hardly call that "everywhere" |
Yuri SUBTEXT and shipping is everywhere.
Quote: | You poor thing, I wasn't aware you were being tied down and forced to read forums, I'm so sorry. |
I'm sorry that I want to read a thread without seeing some guys go "when are X and Y gonna scissor?"
Quote: | Also I like how you completely dismissed the possibility of Bi women, despite allegedly being bi yourself. |
Us bisexuals are an extremely small part of humanity. We're not really statistically significant.
And I was talking about monosexuals only. Obviously bisexuals count for both groups.
Not sure what the "allegedly" part is there for, I've been an avowed fan of yaoi on this forum plenty of times and the male in my avatar is from a goddamn Otokonoko eromanga.
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TitanXL
Joined: 08 Jun 2010
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Posted: Fri May 10, 2013 8:43 pm
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Are you parodying yaoi people or something? I see yaoi fans do that far more than yuri fans.
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Fencedude5609
Joined: 09 Nov 2006
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Posted: Fri May 10, 2013 8:44 pm
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Chagen46 wrote: |
I'm sorry that I want to read a thread without seeing some guys go "when are X and Y gonna scissor?" |
You've got links for that, I assume.
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