Forum - View topicViz Cancelled Gintama Manga
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GATSU
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sparty:
Well, I'm not a fan of Bleach, anyway, but I guess the important difference to casual readers is the filler chapters in Gin Tama aren't even tied in to the main story. So even if the arcs go nowhere, you expect them to pay off later.
Yeah, some of it, like old American sitcoms, I'd agree with you on, but the rest is pretty well known globally.
Viz probably assumed RK readers would get into GT most, so they'd already know the terminology beforehand.
Well, yeah, that's partly why I liked GT at first, but the characters don't really expand beyond those circumstances very well.
Well, that might be an issue, but most of the material should be contemporary enough for them to appreciate.
Sorry, but One Piece goes nowhere, and while I got bored with Naruto, too, at least it still hasn't lost its focus like OP. And I guess you could argue that GT's fast compared to those properties, but when you got too many bubbles on one page and the author does a horrible job of helping you decipher who's speaking, and who's being addressed, it can grate on you. Paploo: Well, yeah, no one's buying it, but they did at one point; and it just wasn't their cup of tea. |
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Lightning Leo
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I really have to disagree with you there. How much of it have you seen? If only the first 50-100 episodes, yeah, I could understand that. But after they really get into the Grand Line you get this context for everything that's happened and everything that's going on, and from this you can really tell where the characters are and where the story is going. There is a much, much greater scheme behind this plot than the first part of the story lets on, which squarely places One Piece into the realms of a modern epic. And then you realize, from the beginning it really has been moving along pretty nicely, paced as necessarily determined by the intricate and multitudinous threads of plot and the much grander overarching story. 
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GATSU
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Leo: I've read the manga on and off, based off the U.S. Jump run, and other than new characters, it's still stuck on bloated battles, rather than the treasure-hunting series it was supposed to be.
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population_tire
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Anyone who doesnt like One Piece should be publicly executed.
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Aura Ichadora
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Everyone likes different things - saying extreme things like that is just being a jerk and really is unnecessary. |
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ReaKon
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I am pretty sure population_tire didn't mean it literally. My group of friends in the UK say things similar to this to each other all of the time. Think of it as a humerous way to say "I like it so much that I can't believe there are people who don't". I bought one piece vol1 about 2 years ago. I thought it was ok and I would probably continue it in another couple of years. I am kind of trying not to buy OP and FMA as I know they won't go OOP any time soon and so I am concentrating my efforts on the series that are more likely to do so. Clearly, Gin Tama is one of those so I will be buying it all over the coming months (especially as book depository is only selling them at £4 a book in the UK). |
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Emerald Dragon
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It seems pretty popular so I don't believe it
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spartydragon
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Heh, just now remembered I was arguing with someone here.
Uh... the filler IS the story. It's a character driven sitcom - although it has more continuity than your typical sitcom, it's still basically about the day to day adventures of the characters. Sometimes those adventures turn serious. *shrugs*
That's a lot for a publisher to assume.
Neither do the Simpsons.
You'd be surprised. I mean, we are talking about an age bracket that considers anything over two or three years old "ancient".
Lemme try this again... compared to what? Compared to a self contained graphic novel? Compared to a shorter series? Compared to Dragonball? A LOT of stuff goes on in a single chapter of Gintama. I personally don't see it as cluttered, I can understand if others do. I agree that it is often a little hard to figure out who's saying what - that's where the original Japanese volumes come in handy as they use different fonts for different characters (why Viz didn't do the same, we will never know). |
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Lizzie_B
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I would like to see SJ advertise series that are NOT published in their magazine. The problem is that they too much on Naruto and Bleach which why othres series are not popular with the rest of the public
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Divineking
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Umm...plenty of Viz manga that are not Naruto, Bleach and One Piece are popular. For example the newly released Blue Exorcist has been on the NY Times best selling chart for the 4th week in a row and I know that wasn't anywhere in the magazine. Also series like Bakuman, D. Gray Man and Letter Bee have been cracking the charts despite only having small previews in the magazine. |
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Anime Remix
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Divineking
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Keyword here is preview, which Viz has done for pretty much everything under the Shonen Jump label. Even the SJ Advanced stuff so it;s not like they just say: here we have XXX title and then never say anything about it until the release date. |
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ReaKon
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To be fair though, Nura: Rise of the Yokai Clan vol 1 was also on the best seller list, but vol 2 was nowhere to be seen. I think the success of a series should be base on how volumes 2 onwards sell. |
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Lizzie_B
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I'm not be surprised. Most SJ readers seem to only read Naruto & Bleach because of too much merchandising. Maybe if they sell merchandise from other series(OP, Reborn, YuYu Hakusho, etc.), that manga might still get published
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Jaymie
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Viz actually responds to a fan!
At least they didn't pretend that Volume 14 was the last volume... But I don't get why they don't just publish the last 5 volumes. The same thing with Kurohime. I'm pretty sure Volume 18 is the last volume, and Viz already published 14 volumes of it. It can't be that hard to negotiate to get the rights to the last four volumes. I sort of understand why they put Reborn on hiatus and outright canceled Gintama. They're long-runners, but they aren't on the Naruto scale in North America. Viz only published Knights of the Zodiac to the very end because the series was already done in Japan. I'm sure that they would've pretended that some random volume was the "Final Volume!" if it was still ongoing. |
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