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Necros Antiquor
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Now, I thought all along that the video had been remastered as well. This is the first I've heard of it not being improved, and if that's true, it's disappointing. Are you sure it's not improved, since the DVD info in the Encyclopedia says "completely re-mastered and remixed in 5.1 Dolby Digital Surround Sound!" That says to me that the video is remastered and the sound is remixed. Could I have a final clarification here? Also, a remixed soundtrack for Bebop would be reason enough, in my opinion, to buy it again, but I'm an audio nut, so meh.
Yes. Oh, sweet sweet yes. 
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Steventheeunuch
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It means that the audio has been remastered and remixed. A remaster doesnt nessecerally mean that the video has been improved in any way what-so-ever, just that the masters have been redone, be it simply copied over from one place to another. However, there's been a general notion that remastering is a good thing and that it's ALWAYS a benefit, so hey, why not advertise it as that! 
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Zalis116
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I have to take some issue with comparing this show to Scrapped Princess, but I can turn down the fanboy rage and let it slide 
Boy, at the rate DearS is "dearteriorating," I'm tempted to do a little hard drive cleaning and not waste my time watching it. |
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Juniper
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*eyeroll* If you're already stealing it, you may as well watch it. What's the point of deciding to not support a release when either way, you're not giving them any of your money? And if the show was good? You'd not support them anyway, but cheer yourself by watching the fansubs? Not nice. |
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Andromeda
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Oops! Then I suppose I should have phrased it in the reverse. Though the closeness of the releases actually proves my point: nobody's copying off of anybody in specific if they use a Young Genius in their cast, as it's already a common archetype, especially in SF (Wesley Crusher, anyone?).
All true, though my annoyance lay mostly with people who said it copied directly off of Outlaw Star, which was the actual show that was airing at the same time, and the person who said Bebop was better because "it didn't take itself seriously". Which come to think of it, is bull not just because it's saying it's "better" based on something that is entirely a matter of opinion, but because while it also poked fun at itself, Bebop DID sometimes take itself seriously. 
And I am in NO way dissing CB OR Outlaw Star. I enjoyed OS when it was on the air and to this day still adore Bebop.  I think I like the genre as a whole, to be honest. There's so many different ways to pull it off well.
Oh, forgive me Holy One, for not A.) "letting it go" when this is actually the FIRST time I've ever even brought it up AT ALL on indeed ANY forum whatsoever (no. Seriously, it is.), and then ONLY because something in the thread reminded me of it (remind me to watch that show that had the Stargate ripoffish bit in it, since apparently talking about PAST shows is suddenly forbidden now), or B.) either keeping track of OR remembering discussions that as you said, happened "years ago", and that as a matter of fact, likely happened before I joined here or posted here (never having seen them, I wouldn't know, now would I?). Also, you act as if I'm OMG THE RABIDEST FAN EVER!!11 and your "let it go" comment implies to me somehow - this could be just me, though, but it reads like that to me and I apologize if I'm misinterpreting your tone - that you believe I've been an OMG OBSESSED FIREFLY OTAKU since it came out in... whenever the hell it came out. '02 I think. Anyway, while I do love Firefly (about as much as Bebop when it came out on TV, and slightly less than Sailor Moon when I was 14), I am a NEW fan, and only tried it out after several people on other forum whose tastes often mesh with mine said "What? Of course it's not an Outlaw Star ripoff. Why would you think that?" or otherwise just recommended it, and SciFi channel decided to air it as a promotion for the movie sequel thing. I'm also, while highly entertained with it and enjoying as I do with anything I remotely like and have extra cash to spend on, collecting a few things (DVDs, and one of those coffee table books with pretty pictures in it) relating to it, still not OMB OBSESSED. The only show I was ever obsessed with at all was Sailor Moon, and that was years and years ago and then only because of the nostalgia factor (my first anime AND manga. I still think of it rather fondly for that alone ). That, and I was something like 13 at the time.
I do tend to ramble (ugh, I'm doing it even now, aren't I), for which I apologize. However, if you look at the actual post (as opposed to having a knee-jerk reaction of "mentioning Firefly at all even when it references something in the thread, and then rambling a bit = automatically an obsessive fangirl rant", and choosing to trivialize it... seriously, either quote it or don't quote it. Going "Firefly RARRRGH!" and using the World's Most Annoying and Intentionally Snotty Smiley is just plain immature, and I'm saddened to think that ANN's Editors wouldn't have slightly more maturity than that). In short: I was only talking to another poster about something they said and bringing up what I figured was a good example of what they were complaining about, going into a bit of rambling detail about why it fit the bill in that case, and expressing a bit of my annoyance at having never given the apparently Now-Unmentionable Within Earshot of Any Anime Fan show a chance the first time around due to a handful of fellow Outlaw Star fans on a DIFFERENT anime forum from this one misleading people based on very little actual evidence. There's no need to get snippy about it, especially since really, it wasn't even a rant so much as an overly long, rambling analysis inspired by a single on-topic comment that I happened to agree with. I'm starting to wonder if you're not a woman, Zac, because I could swear you PMS at times... kidding, kidding, and I mean NO actual disrespect, let alone gender-based (since I also have no idea if you're male or female - I think male, if you're the same guy who does Answerman, but this could be a faulty memory on my part and if so, I apologize - but I try not to assume gender online ever since I got two people thinking that despite my feminine username, I was a guy ) - please understand that much - but one wonders why you would let that post bother you so much, when there really wasn't anything offensive in it, and it was related to something that someone said that was actually on-topic. 
On a side note, I also have to wonder why you felt the rather perplexing need to attempt to trivialize me and/or my statements in public as opposed to PMing me about it. Especially when at least two other posters responded, and most certainly not in anything that could be considered a flame war (and I wouldn't have expected a flame war, either, as I said nothing to cause one, I should think). I'm not offended of course - it was too immature to be all that offending, actually - just simply perplexed.
On another, slightly more on-topic side note: I am SO tempted now to write to Anime Insider about that whole "vs" thing they do (do they still do that? I don't always get a copy of it, and haven't for a while I think) and ask them to pit somebody from Black Gate against somebody from Stargate. Or maybe just "Stargate as anime", in the other feature they do, the "If It Were Anime" thing. Man, now I want to read a copy of Anime Insider again. Curse my lack of funds or time to go to Barnes & Noble.
On another side note... I'm seriously wishing I knew what melon bread tasted like now. Lord knows it's cute looking. -Andromeda |
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Zac
ANN Executive Editor
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I just said "let it go", Andromeda. Crikey. I wasn't insulting you or your honor or your viewpoint. I just said that maybe it was time to let it go. That's it. Chill, man. I wasn't trying to piss you off. |
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Andromeda
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Poster's Note: Unless it's ALL CAPS'D LIKE THIS or has an exclamation point, please regard the tone as neutral. Apparently, my time posting almost exclusively on Godawful Fan Fiction has made the more reasonable demeanor I gained there paradoxically come off as more pissy. *still perplexed by that*
Aaaand he says this even as he uses the same World's Most Condescending Smiley. Again. You know, even when I AGREE that a person's actual comments aren't worth addressing, I've never approved of using that smiley? Even with idiots who can't even read the little subtitle below a headline and therefore make silly assumptions (the "ADV Closes Offices" [for the weekend due to Rita, which they would have known had they looked RIGHT under the headline/link ] story comes to mind). It's an awful cheap way of addressing another person.
Now, I wasn't at all "pissed", contrary to what you may believe - I can't see how I could come off as actually outright "pissed", really, though I apologize if it somehow seemed like I was (then again, perhaps our definitions of "pissed" are different, as "mild annoyance" or "somewhat mildly offended at between trivialized by one of the site's actual Editors no less" does not in my vocabularly equate "pissed". In my mind, "pissed" is The Bride in Kill Bill, only maybe without the actually wanting to kill people in the literal sense part ).
But I find it, again, rather perplexing and even a bit hypocritical that you say "I wasn't insulting you", while you still continue to use that same smiley to trivialize (and that IS what it does) every single word I say. It is somewhat hard to believe you as you say "I wasn't insulting you or your viewpoint" when at the same time, as opposed to simply saying "Andromeda: [comment]", you AGAIN use a smiley that - and I refuse to believe you aren't intelligent enough or perceptive enough to realize this - gives the very definite impression of "your words have no meaning to me, and I refuse to take you seriously in the least". That's something that's always bugged me; if you're going to respond to something, let alone express the opinion that "I think we've all heard this argument before, would you mind not bringing it up again?", you should at least try to respond as maturely as possible. That smiley does not ever seem "mature" to me, or even appropriate in cases where the person you're mocking (and that IS what it does) actually deserves being poked fun at. Believe it or not, that is the only part of any of your posts directed at me that I find in the least bit "offensive", because again, the only message it sends to me or anyone else reading it is: "Your words have no meaning" I can even understand not liking the idea of the Firefly/Outlaw Star debate being stirred, and you are of course free to express that opinion... but it's more than a little annoying to be "yadda yadda yadda"'d at, if you will. Again, if you're going to respond, please do so maturely. If you're going to quote anything, actually quote it. If not, a simple "Andromeda:" at the beginning of any comment directed at me would surely suffice?
You do realize I'm a woman, don't you?
Again... well, I won't ramble on and repeat myself any further, just *see above*. I still find it hard to believe, though, that you don't consider that that smiley used in lieu of quotation could be potentially offensive or in the cases of a some of the more sensitive souls, even hurtful, to the original poster. Again, I can't believe you wouldn't be intelligent enough and perceptive enough to pick up on that. There's no way, surely, you could get where you are and NOT be smart enough to pick up on it. 
A man, when he says something, usually wants to be heard, and above all at least treated with a modicum of respect. A woman, when she says something, usually does not wish to be marginalized, and wishes to be treated with a modicum of respect. Either way, the smiley fails, especially in a thread where there is no flame war in occurence. I only wished you realized that, Zac.
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Zac
ANN Executive Editor
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It's just an attempt to not summon the Quote Ziggurat when responding. Why are you getting so upset? You and I disagree. No reason to get mad. Last edited by Zac on Tue Nov 08, 2005 4:37 am; edited 1 time in total |
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candeh
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Zac,
Thank you for using  to prevent the emergence of a ridiculous quote ziggurat. I would hate to read that tangent essay again. The *overuse* of this kind of stuff is "annoying" and not worth reading twice.
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Steventheeunuch
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I'm still trying to see why people misconstrue words- the best thing to come out of SA, as a bad thing?
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dormcat
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Where was abunai's post? It was there before candeh's.
Can you elaborate on "this kind of stuff?" I got confused whether it was those smileys or long essays you were referring to. Ziggurat. Hmm. Not a word often seen in a forum. Chance of seeing two different persons using this very word in the same thread is approaching zero. |
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mufurc
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*looks at the flame above* ....Right. Yeah. (Btw, yes, where's abunai's post in which s/he asked Zac to treat people with at least half the respect they deserve?
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Anyway, re: the Gankutsuou's voice being done by a certain Shimai Shouta... where's this info coming from? None of the official sites list a voice actor for the Gankutsuou (in fact, they don't even list the role), and I don't remember ever seeing the role in the end credits. |
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dormcat
Encyclopedia Editor
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Shimai Shouta?! Wha...what does that suppose to mean? A pair of underaged feminine boys?! 
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mufurc
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That was my first thought, too. xD (Now that would be something completely different...) But don't ask me, I didn't come up with it:
I'm just curious where this comes from. |
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red stranger
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In fact the old DVDs have an advantage - you can buy all six immediatly, without waiting until next year to complete the series. |
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