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INTEREST: Tokyo Governor: Quake-Affected ACE Event 'Deserved It'


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Sunday Silence



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PostPosted: Tue May 17, 2011 2:31 pm Reply with quote
Can the next earthquake kill him, in an ironic sense? Just him alone, maybe killed by a falling pile of manga he wants to "Restrict?"
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Where's a Daeth Note when you need it? Mad
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As much as I despise the guy, I'm not sure wishing him death and/or eternal damnation is really the appropriate response. Razz
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PostPosted: Tue May 17, 2011 3:30 pm Reply with quote
I hate the fact that he's more tasteless and immoral than what he is banning and still gets rewarded for it (aka re-elected)

For a country who is so keen on having to 'take responsibility' it is absolutely hypocritical he still gets to spew this insensible s#@t

Wake up and smell the coffee Tokyo...
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PostPosted: Tue May 17, 2011 3:47 pm Reply with quote
It's okay, you can say shit here.

Politics fail me. There are times I don't know which way anything's going in this world, let alone one country. Or should that be vice versa? I don't really care.
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PostPosted: Tue May 17, 2011 3:56 pm Reply with quote
I want a slice of life featuring Ishihara and his Tokyo Light Politics Club

the clue is they actually get elected.


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Maximym Meyham!!



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PostPosted: Tue May 17, 2011 4:04 pm Reply with quote
You know, I would REALLY love to hear his cultural standing on Japan in general. If anything, this guys sounds like westernizing the hell out of Japan and hoping to gain favor wit the "superior races". Seriously, this guy is out of line. I bet he even gets off to Datsu A Ron! every night Just because the Western world says stupid and ethnocentric shit like "your entertainemnt isn't up to our par, so you're wacky" doesn't mean you take it and suck up to them.

And dammit, people should learn from video games. Jet Set Radio. Anytime a corrupt governor takes over Tokyo for evil and selfish, stupid reasons, deface the hell out of buildings with beautiful art and blast awesome music to show your dissatisfaction with the government.

And if all else fails, rally a crowd from Akibahara and toss that jerk from the top of the building.
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PostPosted: Tue May 17, 2011 4:37 pm Reply with quote
Maximym Meyham!! wrote:
You know, I would REALLY love to hear his cultural standing on Japan in general. If anything, this guys sounds like westernizing the hell out of Japan and hoping to gain favor wit the "superior races".


Not at all. In fact, pretty much the opposite, this guy has made xenophobic and racist comments as well. Don't assume that because he's raged a PR war against anime/manga it means he's doing so to "westernize" the country. Despite what some might think, there are plenty of people in Japan itself that have disparaging attitudes towards anime/manga and view it as immature, or unworthy of the same respect as other forms of media, or nothing but porn, etc.
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You know, I would REALLY love to hear his cultural standing on Japan in general. If anything, this guys sounds like westernizing the hell out of Japan and hoping to gain favor wit the "superior races". Seriously, this guy is out of line. I bet he even gets off to Datsu A Ron! every night Just because the Western world says stupid and ethnocentric shit like "your entertainemnt isn't up to our par, so you're wacky" doesn't mean you take it and suck up to them.
Gahhhhhhh! Repeat after me: Traditional Japan=/= Perversion, Traditional Japan =/= perversion.

I am not saying he isn't in the basket of westernizers, but the coming of modernity and postmodernity in Japan has not been any softer or fuzzier than in our own country. Japan is not inherently liberal, anymore than it was inherently traditional back in the 1940's.
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PostPosted: Tue May 17, 2011 4:53 pm Reply with quote
It's not enough to be a rude arsehole. He has to be a rude arsehole who's commenting on something well after it's dropped off page one of the forums.
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Maximym Meyham!!



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PostPosted: Tue May 17, 2011 5:44 pm Reply with quote
Mad_Scientist wrote:
Enlightening Information


[quote="Anymouse"Enlightening Information][/quote]

Thanks guys for the heads up.

But I'm also going to have to apologize, as I don't think this affair reeks of a lot of bad history. At least to me.

No hard feelings, but I feel Mr. Governor (seriously, his name isn't worthy of such a piece of filth) has been taught some pre Meiji- Era Westernization BS.

But I'll be honest, after reading about the Meiji Era and Bakumatsu, I don't think Japan holds themselves highly in terms of "traditional" culture anymore. From what I've seen, it's all just a "Race against the West and what they can do", and from the evidence I've seen, a lot of modern city goers consider their traditional culture as poor or "not errr... well, American". No hard feelings, but you can thank the stigma of "Only the west can do Science and Technology" that was spread in the Industrial Revolution, Racial Darwinism that Japan had picked up upon and how that's all been integrated into modern society over there.

Sorry, but I think it's sickening to see in today's world, how one culture holds dominance over the world standards of custom and ways of life, especially after knowing about CNN's little "story" that gave anime off as "wacky (three letter word often used back in post WWII) porn that isn't doused in Christian morals and bleached with banality". I don't think at all mr governor at all cares about "culture and tradition". I haven't seen him do anything culturally significant, unless being a racist and ignorant jackass counts.

Globalization and Racial Darwinism. No matter how many statements of denial, the world still runs by it. Sorry for the change in subject, but that's all I see behind this stunt. And don't take me as some white bread suburbanite bored off of his rocker and hating himself for not being "japanese".
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PostPosted: Tue May 17, 2011 6:08 pm Reply with quote
Ishihara should just be voted out. He writes about worse stuff than what he is having banned. His writings are more graphic and are written in the sense that the people being portrayed are real, while the ones in anime and manga are portrayed as not being real. Anime, manga, and game characters are not real, but people in the stuff he writes about are, whether they are fictional or not.
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PostPosted: Tue May 17, 2011 6:34 pm Reply with quote
The man is such a tool.
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enurtsol



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PostPosted: Tue May 17, 2011 6:35 pm Reply with quote
Sailor S wrote:

If the anime and manga industry really wanted to strike back at him, they'd make an anime/manga with a depiction of him getting sodomized or something. Just post up the usual tripe of "All characters depicted here are a work of fiction. Any resemblance to any person living or dead is purely coincidental" and they'll be fine.


No, such antics are just childish tantrums that won't get anything accomplished. What they need to do is mount a campaign that would convince Tokyo-ites not to vote for him next time. Affect change in the real world.


Mad_Scientist wrote:

Actually, that's not quite true. See this blog postby Dan Kanemitsu for some interesting details. He got less than half the vote, but that happened to be enough to win in this case, and it's questionable if he would have won had the earthquake not distracted Japan from other issues.


No, the 2nd-place candidate only got 26% of the vote, so Ishihara still won by quite a comfortable 18-point margin. It was no contest; he won easily.


Dessa wrote:
Regardless of your political stance, looking at American politics, the incumbent always does better after a crisis (9-11) and during times of war (Iraq), which helped Bush to get re-elected in 2004.


Oh, the incumbent almost always wins in Japan, regardless of circumstances. That's why Japan's Parliament is filled with septuagenarians (ages 70s) who have been getting re-elected for decades. It's like lifetime employment, and nepotism is rife.


Cecilthedarkknight_234 wrote:
You also have to think Japan has more older people that are able to vote that do like him due to the declining birth rate. Do to this the older people will keep him office because they like him and his policies.


Yes, especially nationalists. Japan's youths are notorious for being apolitical - they don't follow or care for politics, much less vote. Heck, look at anime - do you see anime tackling current social or political issues even a little bit? No. This is where the youths' constant chase for escapism bites them in the ass.


Maximym Meyham!! wrote:
You know, I would REALLY love to hear his cultural standing on Japan in general. If anything, this guys sounds like westernizing the hell out of Japan and hoping to gain favor wit the "superior races".


No, Ishihara is a nationalist and a foreigner-bigot. He hates dem dirty furryners who contaminate Nadeshiko wombs.
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PostPosted: Tue May 17, 2011 6:50 pm Reply with quote
enurtsol wrote:


Mad_Scientist wrote:

Actually, that's not quite true. See this blog postby Dan Kanemitsu for some interesting details. He got less than half the vote, but that happened to be enough to win in this case, and it's questionable if he would have won had the earthquake not distracted Japan from other issues.


No, the 2nd-place candidate only got 26% of the vote, so Ishihara still won by quite a comfortable 18-point margin. It was no contest; he won easily.


Ishihara still got less than 50% of the total vote, meaning the majority of people did not vote for him. Also, the 2nd and 3rd place candidates' combined votes were greater than that of Ishihara's alone. Had the vote not been split between Ishihara's two main opponents, who can say what would have happened? Since we don't know the second choice of any of those voters, it's impossible to say. Perhaps Ishihara would have still won, perhaps not.

I'm not saying the guy didn't win by a large amount, but his popularity is down greatly compared to the heights it reached in the past.

enurtsol wrote:
[Yes, especially nationalists. Japan's youths are notorious for being apolitical - they don't follow or care for politics, much less vote. Heck, look at anime - do you see anime tackling current social or political issues even a little bit? No. This is where the youths' constant chase for escapism bites them in the ass.


Not quite true. Stand Alone Complex: Solid State Society dealt with social issues some. So did Eden of the East to an extent. There are others as well.

Does social/political commentary dominate anime/manga? Certainly not. But it's not as if it's nonexistant in the medium.
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