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taipion
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Maybe if Fanimation didn't ahve such a big reputation with Destroying anime series, I'd care about what they'd have to say. IF adv films or US Manga corps had asked I'd listen, but not Funi
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v1cious
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what the hell are you talking about? |
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Steroid
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If it is fansubbed, and they do not prosecute the groups that did it, it will seem like they made an idle threat. If they do prosecute, but have to drop or settle the suits (as the RIAA and MPAA have often), they will seem impotent. If they press their suit but lose on a technicality (such as being unable to connect the sub with the subbers), it will set precedent. Even if they go all the way and win, they will have spent a lot of money and time, and probably not won much.
I think this is just a ploy to scare off the higher-profile fansub groups, and they won't make too much noise about it after the release. But anyway, it should be an interesting test case to see how strong the positions of both sides are, and I hope for a win for the fansubbers' side. |
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Steventheeunuch
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Unplayable discs (.hack, scryed, some others), ridiculously bad video quality (scrapped princess), messed up sound/discs (First 3 volumes of gits: sac (5.1 JP on regular disc is broken, people who bought regular volumes of 2nd volume got DTS discs, english DTS on third disc is broken), they're things that can be avoided, but Bandai doesn't even publically announce these things are defective or offer any kind of replacement. I mean, you could write off Zeta Gundam's faux-dubtitles for the LE boxset, but it instantly raises flags when the 2-disc collections have new subtitles and an actual credit to someone for redoing the subtitles. Sure, there was an unofficial trade-in program on AOD (wont go into it) but that has no gaurantee from anyone BUT a single person working on their own, and no gaurantee you'll get something back. It's not that I really disagree with you Zac, there are those that do have unrealistic expectations. But when you get a product that fails to work or really constitute being up to a quality standard (which some people can have realistic versions of) then you begin to doubt the companies compotency. Not that I don't think they should take to court people who are bootlegging SSS, but it's money spent better on fixing discs, or getting SSS out here quicker so there's even less of a 'reason' to pirate it. Last edited by Steventheeunuch on Tue Aug 22, 2006 8:22 pm; edited 1 time in total |
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Steventheeunuch
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Got to wonder, is this point even worth arguing with you? |
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Someone_II
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What the hell are you going on about? Sure, FUNi has edited some shows for TV but they've always relesed uncut DVDs, as well as some of the most fansub like translations I've ever seen in a legit relese. They even keep the honorifics intact. Personally, if they can expand their library beyond dozens of gonzo titles, they'll probably become the best distributor in north america. Now if only they'd change their name. FUNimation sounds like a company who does the same kinds of things 4kids does (thought, I know they don't). Gonzo USA anyone? |
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Joe Mello
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I congratulate ACDragonMaster for making the most important point in the first post. How stupid are you announcing your work ahead of time when you're a fansubber?
You do realize that people in the industry actually scan these boards on occasion, right? I'd discredit you further, but since you have links to essentially any way to contact you, I think you've given yourself enough rope. |
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Shiroi Hane
Encyclopedia Editor
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animenewsnetwork.com/editorial.php?id=43 |
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Zac
ANN Executive Editor
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Funimation doesn't have that reputation among people who haven't been in a coma since 2001 or so. The fact that you can't even spell the company's name right leads me to believe that your critical thinking skills are hampered somehow. I can't quite place my finger on it, though. Also, Bandai's DVD authoring skill isn't what's being called into question here, at all, and those of you bringing it up are confusing the issue. That has absolutely nothing to do with this, and it's a totally specious argument. You cannot - under any reasonable frame of mind - "stand up" to the people who literally made the film you're distributing for free and act self-righteous, as though what you're doing is somehow 'really the right thing to do' and you're totally infallible. 99 percent of the defense fansubbers put up is about how much they love anime and how much they respect and admire the Japanese artists and companies that make it. And yet when those EXACT SAME Japanese artists and companies tell them to "Please stop stealing our programs and films", they spit in their faces and act self-righteous. Fansubbing at that level has absolutely nothing at all to do with respecting or upholding the Japanese artist's original intent whatsoever. It's a hypocritical, self-deluded piracy ring that's convinced of it's own righteousness to a ridiculous level. They don't ACTUALLY care about anyone who's involved with the production of anime, they just want it for free, and hey, screw anyone who says otherwise. It's absolute reprehensible trash, and I have no respect for anyone who partakes in it. |
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Steventheeunuch
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I thought it was more of an OT thing, but I was mostly refering to the point you made about Bandai living up to 'personal' standards, when that really isn't the case. But anyway, as you said, it's kind of pointless, I just think that the money they're putting towards this could be better spent on things that work, but over at AOD they're already trying to fix things up, so it's not so bad (queue 'anyone who complains is an ingrate/demands special attention/in minority' argument from someone). |
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hakubi_tron
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It would never happen. Studios view different formats as different purchases. That's why the DMCA made it "illegal" to break the copy-protection on your DVD for any purpose, even legal backups. Sony's recent wet dream was to get everyone to buy their movies on DVD "and" UMD (notice how well that went  ). Different format, different puchase. The two will NOT be combined.
Meanwhile they still don't go after bootleggers in other asian countries because it's harder. Even though something like 80%-90% of bootleg movies/music/software occurs with "physical" copies and outside the US. I notice I can still get bootleg GITS DVDs on Ebay, so why the hell are they hassling these people? [removed bootleg link -t, you don't have to prove that bootlegs exist on ebay] Last edited by hakubi_tron on Tue Aug 22, 2006 9:06 pm; edited 1 time in total |
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Josh7289
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Yes! Very good, Bandai! I'm very happy to see a company doing something about this problem!
Thank you very much! 
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Riyousha
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Why? You hate fansubs? |
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Steventheeunuch
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Moreso we hate self-righteous morons with entitlement-complexes who potentially hurt the industry that supplies us with our interests. |
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biliano
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The fansubs themselves aren't the main problem; the main problem are the new breed of fansubbers, the neo-fansubbers that Zac pointed out earlier that only fansub anime for their own enjoyment, and don't give a damn about the creators or the industry as a whole. What Bandai is doing is a good thing for the industry, and it's unfortunate that all licensing companies can't afford to do what Bandai is doing in terms of protecting their investments from these crooks, and that's exactly what the neo-fansubbers are. To Zac: I fixed my initial post on this thread. 
Last edited by biliano on Tue Aug 22, 2006 9:24 pm; edited 1 time in total |
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