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hikaru004
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Actually, there's no "technically" about it. They are illegal via the Berne Convention or the TRIP's Agreementif your country is a WTO member and not a party to Berne. That's why Media Factory could exert legal pressure the way it did. Fansubs were just being tolerated, but not now in the recent case of Bandai Entertainment and not ever in the case of MPAA member distributors. Last edited by hikaru004 on Wed Sep 06, 2006 1:55 pm; edited 2 times in total |
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Mohawk52
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france001
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umm...thats why its called "world wide web...anyways, i totally agree with you, they should have there own account, and tehy should work with youtube to advertise tehre so tehy can sell dvds and stuff. that would be awesome!! * so youtubes anime wouldnt be taken down...*Im an anime addict and i love haruhi suzumiya series. |
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mufurc
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...for a price which may be quite hefty.
No, you're not. Believe me, there are countries far worse off than the UK. (In my country an R1 DVD for sale is a rarity, and we definitely can't rent them.) |
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Abarenbo Shogun
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I wonder how much it would take for the US Anime companies to hire someone to do this job. The uploads of AMV's is seriously ruining my buying habits of buying J-Pop Singles. |
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Mohawk52
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mufurc
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I know you were talking about the UK. I live in Hungary. No renting R1 DVDs here, and import R1s from the US cost usually about 1-2000 HUF ($4-5) more than R2 DVDs sold locally, plus shipping that depends on weight but can be as much as half the total price of the ordered stuff. What can I say, our currency sucks. And if the value of the order is over a certain amount (I think it's 10 EUR = cca $12) and it's caught at the customs one must pay 3-4% on customs duty and 20% VAT. |
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darknightmare
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My question is how long untill the cost of keeping Youtube around catches up to them. I have a sad feeling that it may become a pay to post or pay to view site soon. There is no way such a huge site can live for free for ever. Anyone else feel the same way?
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Richard J.
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Are you saying that you want to lose the ability to download the AMV's because it's leading you to not buy J-Pop singles or am I completely misunderstanding you? This is just a guess, but I'd think they could use low-paid interns to do work like this. It would probably pay a fair amount above minimum wage but still be affordable. Some of the larger companies could probably do it without batting an eye at the expense of searching. My guess is that they haven't done it because they haven't thought of it or don't think that YouTube is as big a problem as the torrent sites. Just to throw in something. I've downloaded fansubs but I'm not on the side of fansubbers. Hypocritical, I know, but it is illegal. I broke the law doing it. I did it because I want to preview shows before I buy them. If something hasn't been licenced, I want to know if I should hope for it to be licenced. Personally, all watching subtitled series has done to me is make me rabid to see it licenced and find out how the english dub sounds. So I think I can be honest in saying that there needs to be some give on the corporate side. I'm not saying they should let people pirate their products. I'm saying it would provide them with an excellent source of income to create a relatively cheap way to download their products. Classic econimics. Supply product to meet the demand. If the Japanese companies lowered their DVD prices a little, or added a few extra episodes, they'd probably see a tremendous increase in sales too. People want the series but they can't afford them. It's a lot like taxes. Lower them a little and the overall revenue goes up. Sounds nuts but it's true. |
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Abarenbo Shogun
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No, I just want those AMV's to be excised from Youtube. Most of them clutter the searches when I go in and look at either the OP's or the music videos themselves. Most of them are amaturish and unprofessional. For example, say I wanted to pre-hear the song....um, let's say, Black Lagoon's Red Faction by MELL. In addition to the Black Lagoon OP and the Music Video, I get a crapload of AMV's that have little to no bearing to my search. In fact, many are based on anime not even related to the song!! I don't wanna see this POS garbage, I want the "legit" stuff!! It's almost akin when I buy on eBay: I want Lego, not Megablocks or some other knock-off plastic blocks appearing on my searches. It hinders my ability to buy, and it contributes to me not buying as much on eBay because I have to constantly refine the search to remove the junk. |
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Richard J.
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Ah, okay I understand you now. I can completely understand the problem for you. Running a search on anything is becoming a headache-inducing experience lately. Try Googling an anime series and you will get a small mountain of links to porn (not even hentai, just regular porn) because they've started just adding key words to force the hits. Excellent related example by the way. eBay is a great site, at least it can be, but man it can take some creativity to figure out how to search for just the things you want. People will purposely add a few popular key words to their descriptions just to force the search engine to bring up their auction that has absolutely nothing to do with what you're looking for. I can't even imagine how much trouble you must be having. I have enough trouble just getting something on YouTube to come up when I've hit a direct link, let alone try to filter through all the possibles on a search list. |
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Wolverine Princess
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Example: a search for any of these terms: Hentai yaoi yuri gay Inuyasha naruto penis vagina pussy tits porn boobs ballsack buttsex sex sexy Brings up this totally unrelated and not safe for work video of Drew Pickles from The Rugrats on Youtube. |
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Richard J.
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Okay that was both really bad and strangely funny at the same time. But seriously, searches are getting darn near impossible. The other night I was searching for a site with screencaps from Noir. (I own all the DVDs but I suck at screencaping) Now, you'd think you could type in the words "anime" "screencaps" and "noir" and get screencaps from the anime series called Noir, right? One of the first links I clicked on ended up being a disguised porn link. Nothing is more irritating than searching for one thing and getting something completely unrelated. And Wolverine Princess, I'm sure you are much better looking than Al Kahn. Although Al's mug is a heck of an improvement over that fat guy at the computer. (You have a peculiar sense of humor.  )
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Abarenbo Shogun
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Most "popular" J-Pop artists on YouTube has at least one AMV floating around. And then there are the "gems". It's just a matter of filtering out the cruft. For example, I thought that a CGI video of the TWO-MIX song "Just Communication" on YouTube was someone's bad College Art project, untill I got the actual video of it on their VISION FORMULA DVD and went "Oh." |
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v1cious
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and if you paid money for that Porsche, is it then not your right to customize it? what if these people are using their own dvds, or their own cds that they purchased? Last edited by v1cious on Thu Sep 07, 2006 1:45 am; edited 1 time in total |
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