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WANNFH



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PostPosted: Tue Apr 15, 2014 9:02 am Reply with quote
Rederoin wrote:

I ment that its very popular among females. Happy now? Jesus [expletive] christ, its just semantics. SnK is not a good example btw, its still more popular among men. Kuroko no basket and Haikyuu!! are better examples of this.


Semantics and the distinction between cause and consequence are two different things.

And yes, KnB and HQ!! - quite a bad example, because they're really focused mainly on the female audience in all things - from characters to the real man-service. Most sport manga largely read by women for now, although I'm not saying that they are unsuitable for reading by the male audience. Like Free!, right.
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Glad Noragami's in there, didn't do amazingly, but it's there.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 15, 2014 10:14 am Reply with quote
Also happy that Noragami's volume 2 seems to be performing better than volume 1. I hope it sells well enough to compel the anime producers to do at least another season.

Noragami is a good, not great, show, but it will most likely be my favorite new anime series for the first half of 2014 (the current Spring season is weak in my opinion).
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 15, 2014 10:16 am Reply with quote
WANNFH wrote:
Rederoin wrote:
By looking at the fanbase?


Seriously, you're definitely confuse the terms "orientation on audience" and "fanbase". Hoozuki no Reitetsu wasn't designed for the female audience from the start and now - it became popular in the female audience cause of appealing things to them.

It's the same thing as calling a female audience-oriented "Attack on Titan" (which has a very large percentage of the female audience), "Gintama", "Tiger and Bunny" and other things that are popular among women. But that's silly.


He doesn't understand things like this.
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Megiddo wrote:
For a large part, it's the seiyuu involved.


It's funny that the actual content isn't the factor in determining the genre or target audience.
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TarsTarkas wrote:

Surprised to see Tangled there, instead of Frozen.


Frozen hasn't been released on disc in Japan yet. In fact, Frozen was just released in Japanese theaters a month ago (the last country to do so - now y'know why J-movie-goers are pissed they always have to wait longer than others). Yet it's already grossed over $90 million so far (already passed Arrietty and tracking better than Wind Rises) and doing a killing on the J-music Billboard charts (4 of the Top 21 are Frozen songs) - that's likely why ya see Tangled in this week's list (its resurgence popularity due to being the same lineage as Frozen). But now, Frozen going head-to-head with Conan.
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enurtsol wrote:
TarsTarkas wrote:

Surprised to see Tangled there, instead of Frozen.


Frozen hasn't been released on disc in Japan yet. In fact, Frozen was just released in Japanese theaters a month ago (the last country to do so - now y'know why J-movie-goers are pissed they always have to wait longer than others). Yet it's already grossed over $90 million so far (already passed Arrietty and tracking better than Wind Rises) and doing a killing on the J-music Billboard charts (4 of the Top 21 are Frozen songs) - that's likely why ya see Tangled in this week's list (its resurgence popularity due to being the same lineage as Frozen). But now, Frozen going head-to-head with Conan.


Yeah, the whole world is globalized with entertainment from corporate America, so it isn't a surprise Disney films and the likes topple the domestic entertainment industry of many nations. I'm surprised how Japan though still manages to retain its own animation/film industry despite the global power many of America's Corporate media conglomerates have. Most of western Europe is Americanized, and anything we churn out topples what they have. We hardly see entertainment from foreign nations outside of Japan, and South Korea, India, Brazil, and Mexico with their sit-coms and live dramas(which all have their niches fanbases in America). Beyond that though, the world is mostly Americanized.

For every Japanophile, Brazillianphile, or Koreanphile, you have thousands that are Americanophiles across the globe and are about as extreme as all the other philes. And yet, because American corporate elite have globalized our entertainment, it is perfectly acceptable to be an Americanophile and worship it out in the open but if you like any other foreign culture in an obsessive matter, prepare to be crushed because you are "weird" for liking it.

Going back on topic, I am pleased to see Madoka holding its ground against a Disney movie. However, it is probably a re-release of Tangled and the initial DVD release probably sold in the millions just as every Disney movie released in Japan has. It seems only Studio Ghibli can hold its ground but the fact that Frozen overcame Miyazaki's latest film means that nothing can topple the Disney machine and the hype that accompanies with it.
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Alexander55 wrote:

Yeah, the whole world is globalized with entertainment from corporate America, so it isn't a surprise Disney films and the likes topple the domestic entertainment industry of many nations. I'm surprised how Japan though still manages to retain its own animation/film industry despite the global power many of America's Corporate media conglomerates have.


Japan has actually been gaining on its film market share for the last decade. It used to be about 60:40::America:Japan, but now it's more like the reverse.


Alexander55 wrote:

Going back on topic, I am pleased to see Madoka holding its ground against a Disney movie. However, it is probably a re-release of Tangled and the initial DVD release probably sold in the millions just as every Disney movie released in Japan has.


Only Ghibli films sell in the millions DVDs in Japan.
Dunno how it was with LDs (while VHS were mainly for rentals).

As for Tangled disc set, it's not a re-release. It says so on the list: Release Date - 2011/7/20, Weeks on Chart - 123.


Alexander55 wrote:

It seems only Studio Ghibli can hold its ground but the fact that Frozen overcame Miyazaki's latest film means that nothing can topple the Disney machine and the hype that accompanies with it.


The Wind Rises is more adult-oriented, so while it's still a high-flying Hayao Miyazaki film, it's one of his lower grossing ones. Disney --or more specifically Pixar-- films do great in Japan, but the foreign franchise that was able to touch Studio Ghibli's rarefied air is actually Harry Potter.

That's why Frozen trying to get there might become Japan's box office story of the year, especially now that Hayao Miyazaki has retired so the kind of performance runs his films typically did may no longer be seen again.

Here's Japan's current ranks:

Top 50 Most-Attended Films of All-Time

  • 01 :: 23.50 million - Spirited Away (2001)
    02 :: 19.50 million - Tokyo Olympiad (1965)
    03 :: 16.83 million - Titanic (1997)
    04 :: 16.20 million - Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's Stone (2001)
    05 :: 15.50 million - Howl's Moving Castle (2004)
    06 :: 14.20 million - Princess Mononoke (1997)
    07 :: 14.00 million - Harry Potter and the Chamber of Secrets (2002)
    08 :: 13.00 million - Emperor Meiji and the Great Russo-Japanese War (1958)
    09 :: 12.87 million - Ponyo (2008)
    10 :: 12.60 million - Bayside Shakedown: Save the Rainbow Bridge! (2003)
    11 :: 12.55 million - Godzilla vs. King Kong (1962)
    12 :: 12.10 million - The Last Samurai (2003)
    13 :: 11.00 million - Harry Potter and the Prisoner of Azkaban (2004)
    14 :: 10.69 million - E.T. the Extra-Terrestrial (1982)
    15 :: 10.10 million - Avatar (2009)
    16 :: 9.72 million - The Wind Rises (2013)
    17 :: 9.61 million - Godzilla (1954)
    18 :: 9.00 million - Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire (2005)
    19 :: 8.90 million - Armageddon (1998)
    20 :: 8.80 million - The Sinking of Japan (1973)
    21 :: 8.60 million - Finding Nemo (2003)
    22 :: 8.55 million - Jurassic Park (1993)
    23 :: 8.40 million - Pirates of the Caribbean: At World's End (2007)
    24 :: 8.34 million - The Return of Godzilla (1955)
    25 :: 8.30 million - Star Wars Episode I: The Phantom Menace (1999)
    26 :: 8.00 million - Antarctica (1983)
    26 :: 8.00 million - The Da Vinci Code (2006)
    28 :: 7.80 million - Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix (2007)
    29 :: 7.75 million - Pirates of the Caribbean: Dead Man's Chest (2006)
    30 :: 7.71 million - The Matrix Reloaded (2003)
    31 :: 7.65 million - The Lord of the Rings: The Return of the King (2004)
    32 :: 7.60 million - Monsters, Inc. (2002)
    33 :: 7.56 million - Arrietty (2010)
    33 :: 7.56 million - Frozen (2014) [5 weeks in release]
    35 :: 7.50 million - The Adventures of Milo and Otis (1986)
    36 :: 7.33 million - The Sands of Kurobe (1968)
    37 :: 7.30 million - Alice in Wonderland (2010)
    38 :: 7.20 million - Toy Story 3 (2010)
    38 :: 7.20 million - Godzilla vs. Mothra (1964)
    40 :: 7.10 million - Bayside Shakedown (1998)
    41 :: 7.05 million - Monsters University (2013)
    42 :: 7.04 million - The Eternal Zero (2013) [17 weeks in release]
    43 :: 7.02 million - A.I. (2001)
    44 :: 7.00 million - Seven Samurai (1954)
    45 :: 6.95 million - Rookies (2009)
    46 :: 6.90 million - Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows Part 2 (2011)
    47 :: 6.80 million - Star Wars Episode II: Attack of the Clones (2002)
    48 :: 6.70 million - The Lord of the Rings: The Fellowship of the Ring (2002)
    49 :: 6.67 million - A Slope in the Sun (1958)
    50 :: 6.54 million - Pokemon: Mewtwo Strikes Back! (1998)


Top 100 Highest-Grossing Films of All-Time

  • 01 ¥30.40 billion - Spirited Away (2001)
    02 ¥26.20 billion - Titanic (1997)
    03 ¥22.00 billion - Howl's Moving Castle (2004)
    04 ¥20.30 billion - Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's Stone (2001)
    05 ¥19.30 billion - Princess Mononoke (1997)
    06 ¥17.35 billion - Bayside Shakedown: Save the Rainbow Bridge! (2003)
    07 ¥17.30 billion - Harry Potter and the Chamber of Secrets (2002)
    08 ¥15.60 billion - Avatar (2009)
    09 ¥15.50 billion - Ponyo (2008)
    10 ¥13.70 billion - The Last Samurai (2003)
    11 ¥13.50 billion - Harry Potter and the Prisoner of Azkaban (2004)
    11 ¥13.50 billion - E.T. the Extra-Terrestrial (1982)
    13 ¥13.40 billion - Armageddon (1998)
    14 ¥12.85 billion - Jurassic Park (1993)
    15 ¥12.70 billion - Star Wars: Episode I - The Phantom Menace (1999)
    16 ¥12.02 billion - The Wind Rises (2013)
    17 ¥11.80 billion - Alice in Wonderland (2010)
    18 ¥11.00 billion - Antarctica (1983)
    18 ¥11.00 billion - The Matrix Reloaded (2003)
    18 ¥11.00 billion - Finding Nemo (2003)
    18 ¥11.00 billion - Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire (2005)
    22 ¥10.90 billion - Pirates of the Caribbean: At World's End (2007)
    23 ¥10.80 billion - Toy Story 3 (2010)
    24 ¥10.65 billion - Independence Day (1996)
    25 ¥10.32 billion - The Lord of the Rings: The Return of the King (2004)
    26 ¥10.10 billion - Bayside Shakedown (1998)
    27 ¥10.02 billion - Pirates of the Caribbean: Dead Man's Chest (2006)
    28 ¥9.70 billion - Mission: Impossible II (2000)
    28 ¥9.70 billion - A.I. Artificial Intelligence (2001)
    30 ¥9.67 billion - Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows Part 2 (2011)
    31 ¥9.50 billion - Back to the Future Part 2 (1989)
    31 ¥9.50 billion - Jurassic Park: The Lost World (1997)
    33 ¥9.40 billion - The Adventures of Milo and Otis (1986)
    33 ¥9.40 billion - Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix (2007)
    35 ¥9.37 billion - Monsters, Inc. (2002)
    36 ¥9.35 billion - Star Wars: Episode II - Attack of the Clones (2002)
    37 ¥9.28 billion - Frozen (2014) [5 weeks in release]
    38 ¥9.25 billion - Arrietty (2010)
    39 ¥9.20 billion - Heaven and Earth (1990)
    40 ¥9.17 billion - Star Wars: Episode III - Revenge of the Sith (2005)
    41 ¥9.07 billion - The Lord of the Rings: The Fellowship of the Ring (2002)
    42 ¥9.05 billion - The Da Vinci Code (2006)
    43 ¥9.00 billion - Jaws (1975)
    44 ¥8.96 billion - Monsters University (2013)
    45 ¥8.87 billion - Pirates of the Caribbean: On Stranger Tides (2011)
    46 ¥8.79 billion - Terminator 2: Judgement Day (1991)
    47 ¥8.70 billion - The Matrix (1999)
    48 ¥8.63 billion - The Eternal Zero (2013) [17 weeks in release]
    49 ¥8.55 billion - Rookies (2009)
    50 ¥8.50 billion - Crying Out Love in the Center of the World (2004)
    51 ¥8.20 billion - Back to the Future Part 3 (1990)
    51 ¥8.20 billion - Terminator 3: Rise of the Machines (2003)
    51 ¥8.20 billion - The Silk Road (1988)
    54 ¥8.15 billion - Hero (2007)
    55 ¥8.10 billion - Deep Impact (1998)
    56 ¥8.04 billion - Umizaru: The Last Message (2010)
    57 ¥8.00 billion - Harry Potter and the Half-Blood Prince (2009)
    58 ¥7.90 billion - The Lord of the Rings: The Two Towers (2003)
    59 ¥7.75 billion - Boys Over Flowers: Final (2008)
    60 ¥7.68 billion - The Sixth Sense (1999)
    61 ¥7.65 billion - Tales from Earthsea (2006)
    62 ¥7.54 billion - Pokemon: Mewtwo Strikes Back (1998)
    63 ¥7.50 billion - Spider-Man (2002)
    64 ¥7.40 billion - Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade (1989)
    65 ¥7.33 billion - Umizaru: Brave Hearts (2012)
    66 ¥7.31 billion - Bayside Shakedown: Set the Guys Loose! (2010)
    67 ¥7.20 billion - Die Hard with a Vengeance (1995)
    68 ¥7.12 billion - Spider-Man 3 (2007)
    69 ¥7.10 billion - Umizaru: Limit of Love (2006)
    70 ¥7.03 billion - Speed (1994)
    71 ¥7.00 billion - Ghostbusters (1984)
    71 ¥7.00 billion - Ocean's Eleven (2002)
    73 ¥6.88 billion - Pearl Harbor (2001)
    74 ¥6.87 billion - One Piece Film Z (2012)
    75 ¥6.86 billion - The Chronicles of Narnia: The Lion, the Witch & the Wardrobe (2006)
    75 ¥6.86 billion - Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows Part 1 (2010)
    77 ¥6.80 billion - Pirates of the Caribbean: Curse of the Black Pearl (2003)
    78 ¥6.70 billion - Spider-Man 2 (2004)
    78 ¥6.70 billion - Top Gun (1986)
    78 ¥6.70 billion - The Matrix Revolutions (2003)
    81 ¥6.50 billion - Mission: Impossible (1996)
    81 ¥6.50 billion - The Green Mile (2000)
    83 ¥6.46 billion - The Cat Returns (2002)
    83 ¥6.46 billion - Departures (2008)
    85 ¥6.45 billion - Forrest Gump (1995)
    86 ¥6.40 billion - Pokemon: Revelation Lugia (1999)
    87 ¥6.22 billion - The Towering Inferno (1975)
    88 ¥6.17 billion - Phantom Ghost of New York (1990)
    89 ¥6.10 billion - Bodyguard (1992)
    90 ¥6.09 billion - Back to the Future (1985)
    91 ¥6.08 billion - The Ecstasy Hotel (2006)
    92 ¥6.00 billion - War of the Worlds (2005)
    93 ¥5.98 billion - Thermae Romae (2012)
    94 ¥5.97 billion - Bayside Shakdown: Final (2012)
    95 ¥5.95 billion - Cliffhanger (1993)
    96 ¥5.89 billion - Les Miserables (2012)
    97 ¥5.83 billion - True Lies (1994)
    98 ¥5.71 billion - Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull (2008)
    99 ¥5.67 billion - Flashdance (1983)
    100 ¥5.55 billion - Red Cliff: Part II (2009)
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angelmcazares wrote:
Also happy that Noragami's volume 2 seems to be performing better than volume 1. I hope it sells well enough to compel the anime producers to do at least another season.

Noragami is a good, not great, show, but it will most likely be my favorite new anime series for the first half of 2014 (the current Spring season is weak in my opinion).



Vol 1 sold more, it's just the bluray numbers didn't come in til the thursday of that week. Vol 1 sold a total of 6,939. And vol 2 sold a total of 4,862. There was a drop and may still drop again at vol 3. http://www.someanithing.com/?p=1236
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enurtsol wrote:
TarsTarkas wrote:

Surprised to see Tangled there, instead of Frozen.


Frozen hasn't been released on disc in Japan yet. In fact, Frozen was just released in Japanese theaters a month ago (the last country to do so - now y'know why J-movie-goers are pissed they always have to wait longer than others). Yet it's already grossed over $90 million so far (already passed Arrietty and tracking better than Wind Rises) and doing a killing on the J-music Billboard charts (4 of the Top 21 are Frozen songs) - that's likely why ya see Tangled in this week's list (its resurgence popularity due to being the same lineage as Frozen). But now, Frozen going head-to-head with Conan.


Well we all recall what Answerman said why US movie seem to premiere in Japan last.

Answerman wrote:
Japanese fans are pretty annoyed by that. Japan has to wait longer for Hollywood films to get released than virtually anybody else. Some films get released day-and-date with the rest of the world, others can lag behind for as long as a year.

Why? Well, there's simply no great rush on the part of the studios. Unlike the rest of Asia, Japan doesn't have much of a piracy problem. If you wait to release a movie in, say, India, the streets will be flooded with camcorder rips and pirated versions long before the movie opens in theaters. Japanese media consumers don't do that. They wait patiently. They generally don't pirate stuff.

Releasing a movie with a proper marketing push takes a lot of time and money, and Japan has a very crowded film market that sees the release of hundreds of their own movies domestically, in addition to localized releases of Hollywood and other foreign fare. In order to maximize a film's box office potential, releases are carefully timed around holidays and competition at the box office. And of course, this being Japan, I'm sure there are bucketloads of red tape and salaryman hand-wringing involved too.

It's certainly not an ideal situation from the consumer point of view, but the industry has no reason to change, and so it won't.


But I think I know another reason why Frozen came out in Japan last in Asia. I wrote this:

I wrote:

About the 3rd part: it's not only that, there's another reason why Hollywood premiere in Japan is dead last, it's because Japan's movie market isn't as big it used to be. I remember in the past, Japan (and Hong Kong) used to be where Hollywood do their Asian premiere, but that's no longer the case anymore. We've seen Hollywood films doing Asian premiere in Mainland China, but now the premiere for Hollywood films in Asia is in South Korea, that country became the 5th largest movie market worldwide. From what I observed, more Hollywood films are getting Asian premiere in South Korea not in Japan, Mainland China, or Hong Kong as they used to in the past. Yes South Korea is now where Hollywood film do their premiere, Japan's movie market is not as big as it used to hence why Hollywood films seem to premiere in Japan dead last. So if Hollywood want to target the Asian market, South Korea goes first, Japan and China goes later. It's no wonder why CNN said South Korea is the "Hollywood of the East". I believe Will Smith back in 2012 praise the Korean film market.


I check IMDB, before Frozen came out in Japan, it first came out in South Korea (Jan 16), then China (Feb 5), and lastly Japan last month. So you see I think they released Frozen in Asian countries depend on how big the movie market is, I know South Korea and China are the biggest movie market in Asia, for Japan, not as big as it used to be from what I've seen.
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