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KatamariSkill
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I'm glad this content wasn't outlawed in japan. I don't know about other people but I enjoy my loli games and manga. But that doesn't mean I have any desire to go out and find some kid.
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Polycell
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Touma
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Damage to what? Anime and manga are not covered by this bill. EDIT: It looks like this is no longer a bill. It has been passed by the Diet and is now a law, according to the Japan Times. |
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Kaioshin_Sama
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I wish they'd go one step further and impose harsher laws on animated and printed content of fictional characters. For one the obvious reason that it's creepy as hell, for another I'm tired of lazy writers and animators using it as a crutch for actual content and better storytelling. It'd force producers to find more alternative and less...creepy ideas for marketing, it'd cut down on the ever encroaching element of the anime fanbase that I frankly want nothing to do with and I'd have the peace of mind in being able to feel a little less ashamed of one of my hobbies.
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walw6pK4Alo
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So it's creepy and therefore should be illegal? "I don't like a thing, therefore no one else can." And it's clear you're not even talking about just loli/shota content, but literally anything you disapprove of. So glad you have zero power and your opinions amount to naught.
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NGK
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>The country's upper house of parliament passed a bill Wednesday, which will see people found with explicit images of children jailed for up to year or fined up to $10,000.
>jailed for up to year >fined up to $10,000 National government just turned this whole thing as a way for them to get more money! Japan's government balance sheet is not a cause for concern for the international markets, but it really is in deep red ink. Basically, those who got caught will only pay $10,000 and spend a year in detention. If one re-offends it's another $10,000 and a year long detention. This looks like a good business case! 
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lebrel
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People, this is not about loli and shota. It's not about porn. If the current Japanese CP law is applied to manga, any manga with a sexy shot of a topless high school girl will be CP:
Text of law (translated): 3 (iii) "Any pose of a child wholly or partially naked, which arouses or stimulates the viewer's sexual desire." Remember that "child" means a person under 18. So everything from Love Hina to Sensual Phrase would be grounds for prosecution. |
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NGK
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I'm calling arms for further fortification of The Japan Ink. 2D Industry Complex (I just made these term up) should fight back, NRA style!
We should advice manga/LN/anime publishers in Japan that they should take a page or the whole book from National Rifle Association on how to deal with outside forces who are trying to destroy its freedom (in this case for 2D publishers... artists' expression), commerce & culture. By now I'm sure everyone here knows who/what NRA and its arm NRA-ILA is, and why it's one of few NGOs that racked up a lot of victories besides the American Gaming Association (AGA). heck, NRA even fought the UN and won! As for the publishers, they rightfully won in a purely defensive front, but this is NOT ENOUGH! Going forward they should regroup and rebuild (using the "templates" mentioned above) in such a way that an attempt to damage the "2D Complex" industry by outside forces should not even be put for into motion or consideration in DIET in the first place! Last edited by NGK on Thu Jun 19, 2014 4:29 pm; edited 4 times in total |
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Rederoin
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Honestly, I'm not even that surprised to see this coming from him. |
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animefan1238
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Maybe if they didn't blur regular real porn then this won't be as big a problem. I'm not saying it would be a cure all, but that kind of restriction makes the more of the unusual folk look for a different material that isn't as censored or is a bigger, ummm, libido switch. I have to say they are a repressed people with the decently laws in terms of adult entertainment. Meanwhile they love the incest, some of the more nasty H and lolicon H stuff. In my opinion the government needs to get in touch with the 21st century and let these restrictions go and focus on the serious issues with regards to child pornography. Granted this problem won't disappear in a flash but it would be a start.
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NGK
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Could it be that those who were trying to craft the law years ago, was so broad in restriction, that it will negatively affect the multibillion dollar "Japan Ink. 2D Complex" enterprise? It is no wonder then that DIET was stuck over what to do with CP. It's very easy to pinpoint those who are behind such broad measures - Western backed NGOs and their arm in the int&national mainstream media basically advocating for inclusion of fiction 2D. ... and we all saw it put to practice blatantly this week by CNN. |
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Mad_Scientist
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Very glad to see they're finally going after possession of real life child pornography. About time.
Also, I do agree with the decision not to include drawings in this. I'll quote what Touma said earlier.
Is loli/shota stuff gross/creepy/weird? Sure. But there is a difference between something that is gross or even something that is outright immoral, and something that should be illegal. There are plenty of things I consider wrong that I don't think the government should be throwing people in jail for. |
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eragon2890
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I am against the law, but given that the previously-inlucded part about anime and manga asked for ´an investigation into *sexual child abuse* in anime and manga´ (end quote) I am almost 100% that wouldn´t fall under it. That was probably the reason they wanted it investigated, because they already saw that problem and thus tought different lines had to be drawn for those media (which is also what the congressperson was talking about. If he/she ´loves manga´ as she said, she sure as hell isn´t gonna be against love hina. he/she was talking about literall child rape hentai. Still happy it didn´t happen tough! JAY! |
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NGK
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More like DIET finally put a smackdown on those who are also pushing fictional works for inclusion! For years the motion for outlawing cp possession couldn't move forward because it's either too broad of a paintbrush or you have outside forces pushing to include fictional works. |
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enurtsol
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Don't worry; these gravure are still fine.
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