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SnowWarren
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Their Sgt. Frog or in this case Sgt. Keroro dub was badly scripted in the few episodes I saw. They were clearly speaking the subtitles and pronouncing all the names wrong. Tamama actually said at one point "This is ungood!". The voices were decent, Funimation's is better in my opinion. Judge for yourself, this guy put a few episodes up on his dailymotion account. http://www.dailymotion.com/user/luciferspear/1 |
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Actar
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I kind of take issue with this line. Sakura is moe, whether you interpret it as such or not... |
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Lavnovice9
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He sounds like one of those anti otaku/moe people and doesn't want CCS associated with them, which is ridiculous because Sakura is one of the most iconic lolicon symbols and help jump started the trend. Trying to say it had no otaku appeal or moe is ridiculous. That's not even getting into all the incest, pedophile, and yuri undertones of the series. |
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Actar
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That's right. She and Ruri from Martian Successor Nadesico. Oh, let's not forget the teacher-student relationship and homosexual undertones as well with Toya and Yuki. It was a thoroughly mature anime and all this was completely removed for the US audience in Cardcaptors. |
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EricJ2
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No, "moe" is based on the concept of cute pity, inviting fans to adopt them like stray kittens out of a big-eyed painting-- Sakura, OTOH, while cute, is basically good at everything (skating, cooking, cheerleading), to the point where it would become implausible except for the main distinction: Sakura is intended to be the favorite character of a girl kids' audience, and is therefore spunky, empowered, has interesting friends, and gets to do cool things with magic. Y'know, sort of like Usagi at her better moments, or Kiki, or Hime-chan's Ribbon, or other magical-girl characters from the long ago 90's days BEFORE the Japanese turned against otakus, forcing real otakus to embrace their negative "pedophile" stereotypes in secret to survive. 
Really? Thought it was removed in the third season of the original show, when Touya's "interest" in Yuki was more and more explained by his sixth sense for something supernatural about him, and was stuck with a "girlfriend" that kept interrupting his attempts to find out. |
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Actar
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Erm... I think you're mistaken. Moe is not some sinister anti-empowering device that serves to disenfranchise women. (After that Comic Artist and his Assistants debacle, I don't want to drag this into a feminist debate). Not sure where you heard that definition of moe from (even the Wiki article is half-decent), but this is the closest consensus that most fans can come to: 
An easy way to disprove your definition is consider the fact that capable and feisty tsundere characters are common moe character archetypes. Moe-elements can range from a variety of characteristics, backstories, objects and accessories that in no way incite this emotion of pity. For example, yandere characters, mecha musume, fighting girls, military girls, etc... |
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iloveturkey
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I assure you you'd look just as creepy embracing Sakura back then as you would in today's environment. These mythical otaku boogeyman have nothing to do with your self confidence issues. You seem utterly oblivious to all the polls of the 90s where otaku ranked their favorite girls in magazines like Newtype just like they do to this day. Hint: It involved girls from all the shows you listed which you seem to think exist in a vacuum where moe and otaku didn't exist in the 90s. Which of course is silly because they did. Not sure why I'm bothering, though, you pulled out the "true otaku" fallacy. |
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EricJ2
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I take the general definition as "A girl show/character that one suspects wasn't necessarily designed for girls..." CCS clearly was, but only in the sense that Sailor Moon was. Btw, what was the answer to question #4, and can I punch the first guy who says "Lum" was the answer? 
(Well, okay, maybe by the later Oshii seasons, and Beautiful Dreamer's characterization of her had it slopping out of every pore, but that's really the director's problem.) |
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ムギまる
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"It's not "moe" because I like it!"
This summarizes the twisted and disingenuous logic of people like EricJ2 to a tee. |
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Lusbox
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One of the first ever anime i watched on tv as a kid (before I even knew what anime was
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zeo1fan
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It's not really a 'false front', though. Tragedy begins with prosperity. It's a necessary part of the tragic structure. And you should avoid ghettoizing a genre bast on what you like about it. The Magical Girl genre has gone dark places, and it's done well in those places. Basically: Staaaaaahp. |
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SquadmemberRitsu
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I can pretty much guarantee you that this will not be available in my region but I already own the series on DVD.
Putting that aside, Cardcaptor Sakura is my absolute favourite series of all time and the absolute pinnacle of mahou shoujo. It does a fantastic job of exploring themes like coping with the death of loved ones, unrequited love and even briefly touches on the subject of homosexuality yet at the same time it still manages to retain its younger target audience the whole way through. And even putting all that aside it's all very well written and immeasurably charming. If you haven't seen this show, please do. |
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