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Cross Ange: Rondo of Angels and Dragons (TV).

Does anyone want to see Hilda re-united with the mother that replaced her and treated her like garbage? Ange with the twisted sister that tortured her just for kicks? Are they going to do another personality 180 and forget everything they did?

And that's my point of all of this. The total and willing break with all empathy. Each and every one of the people in that world would gladly turn each other over to imprisonment and death, so long as it isn't them.

Do we ever see Nouma turning themselves over? Nope. So clearly this is not being done for the common good. This is a world of cruel, selfish people willingly buying into a policy where anyone at any time can be betrayed without hesitation, and everyone is on board with sacrificing anyone close to them, so long as it isn't them losing their freedom/life.

But if so, how did Momoka escape that? Or did she?

There almost has to be some sort of personality-altering control, or this becomes very hard to accept, short of 99.9% of mana users just being irredeemable monsters.

And stop passing this off as a "culture" thing. Norma themselves are not getting rid of themselves, are they? This isn't some sacrifice that everyone understands and is in agreement on, it's self-serving back stabbing.

No, I get that the Normas are the only people in this series allowed to have a sense of actual human empathy, with one or two exceptions out of the presumably millions of mana users.

My question was more along the lines of what is there to root for? They're risking their lives each day protecting an entire population that pretty much has no redeeming quality. They have no loved ones to protect as they've all willingly shunned them. What outcome am I supposed to want here as a viewer, other than the squad not get killed in each encounter? Certainly, I'm not rooting for them to stop the Dragons, which was supposed to be the premise of the show.

It was funny listening to Ange ask herself what I asked here last week:spoiler[whats the point in protecting any of them? They are all rotten to the core. They deserve a fiery death.]

It makes me wonder what Momoka's involvement in all that might be. She was presented as a stowaway that got to the island without any authorization. Yet apparently they knew to send a message through her. They also had to have some idea that Ange was even capable of leaving the island and to do that you would need someone like Momoka who had mana powers to fly the transport. Unless Momoka is complicit in some way there is something very screwy here.

And Hilda is not being spoiler[honest with herself. Pretending she was never friends with Chris and Rosalie. Admit it - you wuv them!]

Those high school girls were [expletive] ghastly -- as bad as Sylphia if not worse. They seemed convinced that Angelise "took" their lives away. Julio of course needs the mob's support and the mob needs a scapegoat but those girls knew Angelise for years.

How did Tusk get Ange's ring back? Last I saw it was in Julio's hand and then next Tusk had it.

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And Hilda is not being spoiler[honest with herself. Pretending she was never friends with Chris and Rosalie. Admit it - you wuv them!]

I agree -- there was really no reason Hilda had to buy the tricked-out apartment and take possession of Chris and Rosalie.

Actually I am a bit disappointed with that pair. I can understand that they had never seen the outside world but I would have thought they might have at least some bit of sympathy for Hilda. More like Vivian has for Ange. Yet it seems that they have severe abandonment issues which would be understandable.

Those high school girls were [expletive] ghastly -- as bad as Sylphia if not worse. They seemed convinced that Angelise "took" their lives away. Julio of course needs the mob's support and the mob needs a scapegoat but those girls knew Angelise for years.

How did Tusk get Ange's ring back? Last I saw it was in Julio's hand and then next Tusk had it.

That punishment is pretty harsh. Ange and Hilda have to start from square zero.

I think the interesting thing is Ange and Hilda have found a friendship, so it isn't exactly square zero. You could see they were keeping each other's spirits up.

But it does bring up an interesting point. The population at large seems to be pretty much universally brainwashed into anti-Norma bigotry. Whether this is done through some application of mana or it is just conventional politics taken to the extreme isn't clear, but this episode showed that the royal family at least isn't brainwashed. They are actually more venal than that.

What I realized is that Julio and Syphilis [sic] know perfectly well that Ange isn't a violent, asocial monster. If they thought that why would they send a fake distress call to her? If Ange was actually like what they say she is she wouldn't have bothered to respond to that. Instead they knew exactly how Ange would react and that was to put herself at risk to protect her sister. If they really thought Ange was evil they would have come up with some other bait, like "we found out how to give you mana powers but you have to get here" or something else that might trigger self interest.

I'm wondering if that will fit in to the rest of the story or become a plot hole.