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TsukasaHiiragi
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LOL I didn't even know the UK passed this ridiculous and outrageous travesty of a "Dangerous Cartoons Act" into law, I'm glad I emigrated to the US..which isn't that much better in this area to be honest, but still better.
This law needs to be abolished, its 'thoughtcrime' in its purest form and the these types of laws will lead humanity down a very dark path. Basically as I read it now, is that almost all ecchi is illegal in England, pretty much ALL eroge type VNs are illegal too, and hentai is considered child porngraphy and will get you a lengthy prison sentence....which moron politicians thought up this crap? If this person was arrested purely for the 'potential' to commit child porngraphy or rape innocent girls just because of the 'ownership' of doujins, then the UK has truely slipped into a dark times with a very oppressive government. |
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WSJ4L
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That's my point. So that would mean ecchi anime with characters of those ages shouldn't be sold in stores, let alone allowed in the country, yet they are. |
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leesahlynn
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Probably a touchy subject for the UK as a certain pedophile rights group gains ever more attention AND public support. Did you know they're trying to get the public not to use "pedophile" anymore? They want to be called "minor-attracted people" and have it declared a protected sexual orientation. The UK Guardian published an entire feature story on how pedophiles should be treated as normative and pointed to research that claims there's no evidence to support that adults having sex with kids is actually damaging to the kid in any way.
Can you blame a judge for taking action in the midst of a literal uprising of demanded acceptance? |
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Minami-Asakura
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Yes this GateCrusherDX person is just projecting his blind moralism, proved by the fact that he cannot accept that what he is saying is the same as if someone that likes shooters is a murder then. The basic thing here is that fiction is fiction regardless of what one thinks of it, regardless if one finds it acceptable under one own moralism or not. Being judged because of fiction, without any real victim, because of thought crime, because of a future possible crime, or worst because of one persons' own moralism, that is indeed sacary. Last edited by Minami-Asakura on Sun Oct 19, 2014 5:44 pm; edited 2 times in total |
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Kutsu
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Yes. There's no reason for this guy to pay for an 'uprising of demanded acceptance'. |
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Megiddo
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Absolutely. This isn't about child pornography. This is about lines drawn on a piece of paper. The former causes actual harm to the child and of course should be disciplined. The latter causes no harm to anyone and should not be punished on its own. |
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consignia
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Who is this organisation? The militant peadophile orgainsation Millipead? I doubt there's any public support for such a cause. If it even exists. The whole thing reads like a Daily Mail diatribe, whipped up to anger the middle classes. |
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Greed1914
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Honestly, the reasoning in that statement sounds an awful lot like people point to violent video games when they hear that a school shooter played Call of Duty or whatever. There are always going to be a few that are "ill-disposed," but I can't see where taking away something that isn't harmful to the vast majority of its users just because a select few can't handle it helps. The people that point to games like COD as problematic seem to miss that it sells millions of copies each year, and yet only a miniscule number of players engage it actual violence. Ultimately, I'm with most other folks here. This is punishing thoughts, not actual conduct, and we're all guilty of occasionally thinking of something that would actually be illegal if we acted on it. The thing is, most have enough self-control to handle it. Even if I found the drawings/cartoons someone liked "repulsive," I'm not going to ever say they should be punished for it. |
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leesahlynn
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He's been caught with illegal materials, whether you think they should be illegal or not. He's paying for his own actions, not anyone else. I don't personally have anything against anyone who wants to read/watch all the loli and shota they want. I'm just pointing out how the rapidly changing atmosphere surrounding pedophile culture and rights over there has effected general judgement. The older crowd is seeing the younger crowd buy into a movement that glorifies REAL adults having sex with REAL children. They're jumpy and hypersensitive to the subject atm. That's why a line was drawn, legislators passed an act with the support of the public that made these materials illegal for the time being. Don't get caught with them if you choose to fight the system. He's getting off pretty easily anyway, they could have thrown him into general population as a child predator. |
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Suena
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Do I think a lolicon/shotacon lover should be jailed? Not really.
Would I ever leave my young child alone with them? Never, ever, ever. And I don't care what statistics say. |
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Small Waves
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Ryu Shoji
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Season 1 is a 12, Season 2 is a 15.
I don't read The Sun, but knowing what the paper is usually like, probably. |
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ZiharkXVI
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Wait...a law was passed that regulates morality. That's 100% of all criminal law. I don't see any issue whatsoever. If such behavior is not acceptable to that society to the degree that they criminalize it, then that individual partakes in the activity to his own risk.
Sort of an idiot really, unless he wanted to make a statement. Although I'm not sure the statement, "We should be free to draw children's sexual acts" is a very good one. Sort of depraved. I'm sure someone is going to suggest that the current moral guideline is actually unfair and prejudiced, but that of course is a moral statement, so I don't know where that gets you. Maybe your moral view is somehow more right? I disagree. Perhaps instead of looking at the issue in the sense that the law is hindering freedom of expression, one might wonder if this individual is expressing anything other than a sickness of the mind. If so, shouldn't we be glad he's stopped? I certainly don't need to see what he's drawing, and I'm fairly certain nobody else does as well. |
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RAmmsoldat
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Well the article says he copped to the charges so I wont be throwing my copies of high school of the dead and sundome in the fire just yet. If it were me Id fight em no matter how my solicitor tried to scare me.
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leesahlynn
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Uh, I have some news for you. Even here in the States there's been a growing trend of pedophile acceptance. The APA caused a FIRESTORM when they published their latest DSM manual with pedophilia listed as a sexual orientation and there are hundreds, I mean hundreds, of similar studies trying to show there's no evidence of negative consequences in consensual adult-prepubescent child relationships. I can link you to them if you want to read them, their authors are still actively publishing. The main active group is called B4U-ACT and they've even held conferences here in the States full of licensed, working psychiatrists who all converge to lend their support to pedophile rights. You should check out their website, they're one of the main proponents of "minor-attracted people" instead of pedophiles. A little bit of research would do all of you some good. |
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