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NEWS: Report: Japan's Animation Industry Reached Record High in 2013


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mdo7



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PostPosted: Fri Jan 02, 2015 1:30 pm Reply with quote
Fedora-san wrote:

But the key difference between comic books and prime time American shows to anime is anime is marketed to kids in America, or at least they try to. Naruto is a kids show in Japan, and they tried to market it as a kids show in America, so that means censored TV airings and censored manga releases. Yeah, some comic books and prime time shows get away with alot more, but that's because they're not marketing themselves for kids like Viz did with Naruto. I guess that's the argument why people are against anime being mainstream. Mainstream anime seems to be finding the next Pokemon or Dragonball Z and that means censoring and changing things to make it marketable to kids. You can't make it mainstream like Game of Thrones or Walking Dead because the general American public will not take animation seriously so that leaves only the children's market.


That's why I prefer online streaming rather then using network TV to broadcast anime, that way it doesn't have to be censored. As I said, more people are watching TV online rather then on network TV. I've seen stuff online that can become popular, you don't need network TV to make it mainstream or make it household name. I think anime can become mainstream but by using online streaming and like I said more people are watching online then on network TV.
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enurtsol



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PostPosted: Sat Jan 03, 2015 1:41 am Reply with quote
mdo7 wrote:
enurtsol wrote:

The 1st part is about TV viewership. The 2nd part is about TV sales (and it's not because of internet streaming). Those are 2 different things.

Perhaps these articles will back this up:

Are Young People Watching Less TV?


That's fine, but ya can't use this "(and it'll continue to decline because of internet streaming)" to support this "TV viewership has decline". TV viewership and TV sales are not the same (and the latter is not due to internet streaming).


residentgrigo wrote:

The Titas tv anime had not real violence(i read all 3 manga trust me) but i think you mean the american tv censorship part enurtsol.


Yes, Adult Swim Toonami hasn't been censoring, save for the f-words and blurring nudity.

And oh yeah: Very Happy



Korra x Asami, KorrAsami true end! Wink
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mdo7



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PostPosted: Sat Jan 03, 2015 11:10 am Reply with quote
enurtsol wrote:

That's fine, but ya can't use this "(and it'll continue to decline because of internet streaming)" to support this "TV viewership has decline". TV viewership and TV sales are not the same (and the latter is not due to internet streaming).


Well there's a strong correlation between TV viewership declining and the increasing internet streaming viewership, just saying. But I wouldn't be surprised if the TV viewership start to decline any further.
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enurtsol



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PostPosted: Sat Jan 03, 2015 11:16 am Reply with quote
mdo7 wrote:
enurtsol wrote:

That's fine, but ya can't use this "(and it'll continue to decline because of internet streaming)" to support this "TV viewership has decline". TV viewership and TV sales are not the same (and the latter is not due to internet streaming).

Well there's a strong correlation between TV viewership declining and the increasing internet streaming viewership, just saying. But I wouldn't be surprised if the TV viewership start to decline any further.


Again, let's get this straightened out, TV sales is not due to internet streaming.

This article: http://www.computerworld.com/article/2487530/personal-technology/u-s--tv-sales-shrink-nearly-10-.html
is about TV sales, not TV viewership, and thus can't be used to support the other article:
http://mashable.com/2013/10/11/millennials-online-videos/
which is about TV viewership.
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residentgrigo



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PostPosted: Sat Jan 03, 2015 11:42 am Reply with quote
But these example are censorship due to american double stands.You guys pump out like 90% of the worlds porn. Sort it out. I don´t even know how much i can swear on this board.
Here in europe we have hardcore swearing in 0 and up rated movies and even sometimes add in like some dumb scanlators. Shin Chan for example had balloons changed to condoms in a daytime airing dub. Ace of spades there. Well as it has been said before nearly all countries do not take animation and so on seriously(even the Oscars) and this won´t change in our lifetimes too much i take. So as long as that does not improve comics will continue to sell like 25.000 and be a "success" and anime who break 10.000 will be called "big".
My favorite american censorship of all time is this recent Hannibal case:
https://www.reddit.com/r/todayilearned/comments/1wpr7i/til_that_a_shot_in_hannibal_of_a_flayed_naked/ Sort it out.
About Korra i can life with the couple but it needed more build up and they should have come out of the portal after time passed on their journey hand in hand(and not go in) to make it more understandable. We should get more canon comics after the show ended so the story is not over yet.
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mckg1



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PostPosted: Sat Jan 03, 2015 3:10 pm Reply with quote
Gatta see 2014 data before we jump into conclusion. but great to see these numbers ! im ganna buy a movie to add to my collection.
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Fedora-san



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PostPosted: Sat Jan 03, 2015 4:58 pm Reply with quote
mdo7 wrote:
That's why I prefer online streaming rather then using network TV to broadcast anime, that way it doesn't have to be censored.


I agree, and I wish more companies would do this. I'd rather have a internet-only series like Vangaurd that's uncut than a heavily edited TV mess like Yu-Gi-Oh. They could at least put the subs online, but they don't.
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