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mangamuscle



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PostPosted: Wed Jul 15, 2015 1:25 am Reply with quote
DuskyPredator wrote:
centaur were actually supposed to be quite brutish, and rape was meant to be a part of the myth.


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HaruhiToy wrote:
Not true but even if it were I would prefer that over those tiresomely oversized breasts, each of which looks to be at least 1/3 the weight of a normal adult human. Apparently there is a market for that sort of thing so I guess I'll just have to put up with it.


As usual my complaint is the opposite, with jugs that size and as a trained warrior, Cerea's back should be wider and her arms meatier. But I can keep dreaming, I am enjoying this series anyway.
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dtm42



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PostPosted: Wed Jul 15, 2015 3:56 am Reply with quote
Stark700 wrote:
Also, is it just me or does Ms Smith looked quite hot this episode?


Damn she looked gorgeous.

I'll tell you what. You guys can take the monster girls and I'll take the sexy-as-hell human. Everyone wins.
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Vaisaga



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PostPosted: Wed Jul 15, 2015 5:26 am Reply with quote
HaruhiToy wrote:
Not true but even if it were I would prefer that over those tiresomely oversized breasts, each of which looks to be at least 1/3 the weight of a normal adult human. Apparently there is a market for that sort of thing so I guess I'll just have to put up with it.


Cerea's are pretty bad but at least Miia's are nice.

Sunny milk wrote:
I just want the girls I like to be appreciated in the anime too, if they are appreciated in the source.


And they aren't being "appreciated" if they don't treat them more like sex objects?
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DuskyPredator



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PostPosted: Wed Jul 15, 2015 6:20 am Reply with quote
I also wanted to add some strange thoughts from the fact I have recently been playing The Witcher 3, which has various monsters that you kill.
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Cam0



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PostPosted: Wed Jul 15, 2015 8:24 am Reply with quote
HaruhiToy wrote:
Not true but even if it were I would prefer that over those tiresomely oversized breasts, each of which looks to be at least 1/3 the weight of a normal adult human. Apparently there is a market for that sort of thing so I guess I'll just have to put up with it.


I've said it before but I really do not like those overly sized breasts. They don't look sexy, just unnatural and weird. Miia's are pretty borderline for me.

DuskyPredator wrote:
I also wanted to add some strange thoughts from the fact I have recently been playing The Witcher 3, which has various monsters that you kill.


I recently finished that game and it's fantastic. My playthrough took a 100 hours and I still had plenty of those tedious question marks around my map. Remember to take the drinking as far as possible with your witcher friends when you get to Kaer Morhen, you'll suffocate from laughter.
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Sunny milk



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PostPosted: Wed Jul 15, 2015 9:58 am Reply with quote
Vaisaga wrote:

And they aren't being "appreciated" if they don't treat them more like sex objects?


Leave the feminism crap out of it.
Their body being glorified as beautiful, and not awkwardly cutting it is being appreciated, yes.
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DuskyPredator



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PostPosted: Wed Jul 15, 2015 9:58 am Reply with quote
Maybe I have a dirty mind, but in terms of the centaur breasts. Sometimes my mind has equated large cup size as the equivalent of a male having a large "package". And after all male centaur and the whole lower half if a horse, in my mind I have kind of accepted it in this situation. Yeah, I should stop.
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Vaisaga



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PostPosted: Wed Jul 15, 2015 4:23 pm Reply with quote
Sunny milk wrote:
Their body being glorified as beautiful, and not awkwardly cutting it is being appreciated, yes.


But they don't need to strip down and shove their ass into your face for that. The human form (or non-human in this case) is inherently beautiful without the need for some sexy pose. Just having Papi wear a tank/tube top with short shorts is plenty.

DuskyPredator wrote:
Maybe I have a dirty mind, but in terms of the centaur breasts. Sometimes my mind has equated large cup size as the equivalent of a male having a large "package". And after all male centaur and the whole lower half if a horse, in my mind I have kind of accepted it in this situation. Yeah, I should stop.


Huge breasts should really be assosiated with were-cows instead of centaurs.
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HaruhiToy



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PostPosted: Wed Jul 15, 2015 4:28 pm Reply with quote
Vaisaga wrote:
Huge breasts should really be assosiated with were-cows instead of centaurs.

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dtm42



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PostPosted: Wed Jul 15, 2015 4:55 pm Reply with quote
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Thanks for the nightmares I'm going to have. I really want to wake up in the middle of the night screaming because my brain remembered that . . . thing, whatever it is.
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Vaisaga



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PostPosted: Wed Jul 15, 2015 5:00 pm Reply with quote
It's the fat vampire from the first Blade movie. Not sure how it's relevant to my comment about were-cows...
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Jose Cruz



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PostPosted: Wed Jul 15, 2015 6:43 pm Reply with quote
DuskyPredator wrote:
I am..... familiar with...... this series. Anime smile + sweatdrop

I don't need to go into detail, but yeah I am down for an ecchi monster girls anime.


They are making adaptations of all the manga I have read so far. Very Happy It's like the fact of my buying the manga makes it being animated. Laughing Though I am not really interested in this one in particular as I found the manga pretty boring.
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ChibiKangaroo



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PostPosted: Wed Jul 15, 2015 11:59 pm Reply with quote
The second episode was definitely better than the first, but that's mainly because the other two girls are much less annoyingly predictable than Miia. They massively overplayed that whole strangling the hero with her tail bit and I was just tired of seeing her on the screen saying "Darling!!!"

However, even though the second episode was better, I am also feeling more like this material could have actually been special if it wasn't a total boob show. Well, boobs for Miia and centaur girl. For Papi we just get tons and tons of crotch shots, and they seem to love emphasizing the fact that she doesn't button up her shorts, like they could just fall off at any moment and reveal some bird girl stuff.

I think there is something interesting about this show because the material is so bizarre and you have to wonder how they will have these girls' strange bodies interacting with the human environment. However, that really seems to be the only appeal. Even the boob jokes are becoming very repetitive and a lot of them are just so over the top that it's crossing the line into pure fap material.

This might be one of those shows where Zac could actually be entitled to claim that people were sitting there jacking off to it. (You can't really deny that the popsicle scene and the centaur boob stuff was fap material.) I will say that this stuff was some high quality material from a purely production/visual standpoint, but like I said, I feel like there's a wasted opportunity to do something really special with the concept.
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ChibiKangaroo



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PostPosted: Thu Jul 16, 2015 8:42 am Reply with quote
Well anyone can deny anything they want to I suppose, but it is fascinating to me that people think porn = comedy. I would classify a large percentage of the content in the second episode as straddling the line between softcore and regular porn. Take the centauress boob scenes for example.

We spent a significant amount of her scenes (especially the chase scene) watching a close-up, zoomed-in view of her enormous wet breasts jiggling and bouncing around. Special pains were obviously taken by the animation team to make the bouncing and squishing of her watermelons as detailed as humanly possible. Is it really comedy to watch zoomed-in views of gigantic boobs jiggling, bouncing and squishing about while a pair of disembodied hands gropes at them? If the answer is yes, I feel like anime comedy has really been brought low. To me, that is some kind of porno material. Like I said, the production values were pretty high so I would call it high-quality porno material, but it was just porno material.

If I were to watch an excessively detailed porno film, I wouldn't classify it as a comedy just because the material was "in-your-face" in its titillating nature. That seems silly to me. Why deny what this show is?

I would agree that there are minor humorous aspects to the show, but most of that just involves the main character being repeatedly almost killed.

After two episodes, it is hard for me to say that this show is a comedy. It seems much more like something slightly more than high-quality softcore porn with minor humorous elements, mainly involving the same gag happening over and over.
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Cam0



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PostPosted: Thu Jul 16, 2015 8:56 am Reply with quote
It uses fan service as a basis for many of its comedy scenes. A rather common thing in anime with a lot of fan service. It's definitely supposed to be sexy. Kurusu accidentally groping Cerea's boobs is funny and (not so) hot at the same time. While I find this show to be sexy, I'm not nursing a semi while watching it probably because the girls are monsters. I can definitely appreciate the fan service even though I wouldn't actually want to... you know. I'm sure there are people who get turned on by this show and the show is pandering to those fans as well.
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