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EP. REVIEW: One Piece

This was one of the best episodes of the arc, if not the entire year so far.
Zou has had such a great color pallete and art direction that help add to the general atmosphere.
Capone was looking even more sinister than he did in the manga. I know Hiroaki Hirata (Sanji's seiyuu) must have been anxious to get to this portion of the arc.

Why did they skip brook song on episode 762??

So everyone loves the Raizo was there the whole time revelation, but as stellar as that scene is it makes ZERO logical sense. I get Kink society is different but I find it Impossible that there's not one kid looking to save his own hide by throwing him under the bus or one Mother watch Jack beat up her kis that would just tell him.

The scene is great but it's pretty silly and unbelievable if you look at it for more than a few seconds.

So everyone loves the Raizo was there the whole time revelation, but as stellar as that scene is it makes ZERO logical sense. I get Kink society is different but I find it Impossible that there's not one kid looking to save his own hide by throwing him under the bus or one Mother watch Jack beat up her kis that would just tell him.

The scene is great but it's pretty silly and unbelievable if you look at it for more than a few seconds.

Snakebit1995 wrote:

So everyone loves the Raizo was there the whole time revelation, but as stellar as that scene is it makes ZERO logical sense. I get Kink society is different but I find it Impossible that there's not one kid looking to save his own hide by throwing him under the bus or one Mother watch Jack beat up her kis that would just tell him. The scene is great but it's pretty silly and unbelievable if you look at it for more than a few seconds.

It's called loyalty, they're a close knit race as we've seen the past 10 or so episodes and their loyal to their King their bonds and promises.

ultimatehaki wrote:

Snakebit1995 wrote: So everyone loves the Raizo was there the whole time revelation, but as stellar as that scene is it makes ZERO logical sense. I get Kink society is different but I find it Impossible that there's not one kid looking to save his own hide by throwing him under the bus or one Mother watch Jack beat up her kis that would just tell him. The scene is great but it's pretty silly and unbelievable if you look at it for more than a few seconds. It's called loyalty, they're a close knit race as we've seen the past 10 or so episodes and their loyal to their King their bonds and promises.

So you're telling me that you could go to a random town and hideout from some debts only to find out the mob is now systematically attacking and mutilating innocent people and none of them will tell them where you are just because they're loyal to a friend?

That would never happen, someone would save their own skin, someone would save their relatives and loved ones before giving a damn about a glorified stranger.

I get this is a fantasy story, I have enough logic to ignore it and enjoy the story, what I don't like is that people are calling it one of the greatest one piece moments when it makes 0% realistic or logical sense. The moment with Robin on the balcony crying for help is realistic, a normal person would do those things. No town of normal people/animal people would all let themselves get nearly killed for some guy they barely know because their ancestors were old buddies.

Snakebit1995 wrote:

ultimatehaki wrote: It's called loyalty, they're a close knit race as we've seen the past 10 or so episodes and their loyal to their King their bonds and promises. So you're telling me that you could go to a random town and hideout from some debts only to find out the mob is now systematically attacking and mutilating innocent people and none of them will tell them where you are just because they're loyal to a friend? That would never happen, someone would save their own skin, someone would save their relatives and loved ones before giving a damn about a glorified stranger. I get this is a fantasy story, I have enough logic to ignore it and enjoy the story, what I don't like is that people are calling it one of the greatest one piece moments when it makes 0% realistic or logical sense. The moment with Robin on the balcony crying for help is realistic, a normal person would do those things. No town of normal people/animal people would all let themselves get nearly killed for some guy they barely know because their ancestors were old buddies.

I suggest you take a Multi-Cultural Communication class. Logically, it makes sense. It is a different society. Each society has different standards, different behaviors. You would be surprised what the shared values are in some countries in the real world. The minks are a small country that has been brought up to be loyal beyond anything else. The population density makes it more likely for everyone to follow their shared values. You may think of it as "Why is there not a single kid that watches their family suffer and doesn't do anything" While, if you put your self in their shoes, they may be thinking "My family member is suffering for our values, I will stand along with them and not make their suffering meaningless." You cannot decide other cultures worldview. We all have a world view based on our culture. Just be a little more open minded and logical when looking at other culture's behaviors.

ShadowDZero wrote:

Snakebit1995 wrote: ultimatehaki wrote: It's called loyalty, they're a close knit race as we've seen the past 10 or so episodes and their loyal to their King their bonds and promises. So you're telling me that you could go to a random town and hideout from some debts only to find out the mob is now systematically attacking and mutilating innocent people and none of them will tell them where you are just because they're loyal to a friend? That would never happen, someone would save their own skin, someone would save their relatives and loved ones before giving a damn about a glorified stranger. I get this is a fantasy story, I have enough logic to ignore it and enjoy the story, what I don't like is that people are calling it one of the greatest one piece moments when it makes 0% realistic or logical sense. The moment with Robin on the balcony crying for help is realistic, a normal person would do those things. No town of normal people/animal people would all let themselves get nearly killed for some guy they barely know because their ancestors were old buddies. I suggest you take a Multi-Cultural Communication class. Logically, it makes sense. It is a different society. Each society has different standards, different behaviors. You would be surprised what the shared values are in some countries in the real world. The minks are a small country that has been brought up to be loyal beyond anything else. The population density makes it more likely for everyone to follow their shared values. You may think of it as "Why is there not a single kid that watches their family suffer and doesn't do anything" While, if you put your self in their shoes, they may be thinking "My family member is suffering for our values, I will stand along with them and not make their suffering meaningless." You cannot decide other cultures worldview. We all have a world view based on our culture. Just be a little more open minded and logical when looking at other culture's behaviors.

Look I know different cultures are different and this series is all make believe.

But I'm talking basic fight or flight psychology and human condition here. This isn't about communications between culutres this is about logic and the mind. No person would ever think like this in such a blanket way. The odds of a whole society teaming to protect a stranger would never happen. Maybe it if it was just goverment people hiding a secret but the individual civilions on Zou have ZERO incentive to protect Raizo other than their leaders are, the older Minks may have associated tightly with the Samurai but the young kids haven't and therefor have zero incentive to protect them. Jack's deal is 100% better, they save themselves and their family and lose nothing but the weight of selling the guy out.

I'm all for saying this is just fun for fantasy, but you would never NEVER find a society of that number in this world that would ever do something like this. 100+ people all letting themselves be killed for some guy they only recently met, it would never happen, at least 1 person would save themselves or their family before they'd save you, the guy they just met. I'm not trying to sound depressing but you have way too much faith in human society to think we could ever pull this off in real life.

Also again I know it's fantasy I'm just saying if you think about it for a little bit some of the luster is lost because of how unbelievable it is.