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_Cyphon_
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Ep. 4: I like how instead of info dumping how the twilights originated, Gangsta. instead made it part of the learning materials Worick had to learn. A nice way to present information without telling your audience directly.
The episode overall was really well done except for the one big hole in its back, production quality. But I've been so engaged these past episodes that they aren't bothering me as much as I thought they would. The flashbacks were placed well and it builds suspense for next week's episode. I would've thought the "kid" was A/1 or A/2, but him being on the same level as Nicolas makes it a lot more intriguing as to how the fight will end up next week. |
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ikillchicken
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...but Gangsta isn't Black Lagoon. It never was Black Lagoon. It never will be Black Lagoon. Nor is it Michiko & Hatchin. (Nor Baccano since I've heard that one too). I mean, differing opinions and all that. If people aren't really sold on this show that's fine. It just perplexes me how much people really seem to want this to be something it isn't. It's not supposed to be a bombastic action spectacle. It's a deliberately paced, mood piece/character drama. I guess if people don't want that, fair enough. But honestly, at this point "Gangsta should be more like Black Lagoon" is pretty much the new "This isn't enough like Cowboy Bebop" re: Space Dandy. It's just this weird, arbitrary assumption that's somehow cropped up among fans about what this show ought to be but really isn't. |
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Theozilla
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While the animation definitely gets derpy in long shots, I think elsewhere it's overall pretty decent.
Also Michiko & Hatchin's animation was considered bad? I thought it looked pretty great (at least during the first half of the show, the quality did dip near the end of the show, but even then I wouldn't have called it bad). |
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SHD
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Exactly. I didn't understand why people started likening Gangsta to Black Lagoon in the first place (if we must play that game Gangsta is a lot more like Gungrave, really), and I can't understand at all why can't they just let it go once they realized that no, it's not like Black Lagoon (or any other show they expected it to be), and why must they allow those expectations cloud their judgement of the show. Not to mention, Gangsta is an adaptation, it looks like the manga it's based on, which is not inspired by any of the anime whose titles people keep throwing around. |
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IchiharaYuuko
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Amen. Glad I'm not the only one who feels this way. |
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BluExocet
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Yes! Thank you! If you want more Black Lagoon, just read/watch Black Lagoon. Or Jormungand. Jormungand is good, too. Production quality aside (it was painful to look it, I really hope they clean it up for the physical release), incorporating the flashback sequences that occur in volume three this early on was a good choice. Keeps the viewer invested in these characters. We have a whole lot more characters that still need to be introduced. And Alex's hallucinations, hoo boy. I have a feeling people are gonna go nuts over this when more is revealed about it. My biggest complaint that I have so far against the series is the removal of Nic's "antics" that occur in the manga. They're keeping all of Worick's stupid stuff in, but Nic does just as much stupid stuff and it's virtually gone. spoiler[Such as holding the wanted posters up with his face instead of his hands, and Chad smacking him for keeping them.] |
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Gina Szanboti
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Frankly I think a lot of it has to do with the style of the OP, which looks like it was designed by the same person who did BL. One you see the OP, BL is kind of fixed in your mind, every week, and then G has to prove all over again that it's false advertising. 
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SHD
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I don't know, I still think people are taking it too far. Yes, the OP looks similar, but then you get to the actual show which is not like Black Lagoon at all, that really should clue people in. (Then again, I was never a huge fan of Black Lagoon so maybe that's why I don't get it.) Also, I see what you mean but just to nitpick, "false advertising" may not be the best word choice here... I mean it's not like Gangsta is trying to pass itself off as Black Lagoon #2, it's just a subset of viewers who who want it to be Black Lagoon #2 for some reason, instead of enjoying it for what it is. |
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DJShay12
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I don't see anything wrong at all with the animation. It looks good to me. Especially Nic's fight sequences.
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Gina Szanboti
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When you choose an OP (which is an advert for the series) that is stylistically extremely similar to another popular and instantly recognizable OP, I don't know what else to call it when the content is so different. It's like biting into something that looks like an orange but tastes like a strawberry. Strawberries are delicious, but if you're expecting to taste orange, you're probably going to go eww.
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SHD
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Er, openings aren't adverts for the series - trailers are. None of the trailers for Gangsta were trying to sell the show as another Black Lagoon. For that matter, I don't think the OP is that much similar Black Lagoon's opening either. Sure, there are similarities but it's not something I'd call "extremely similar". (Clearly we'll disagree on this part, but I'm sure I'm not alone with this.) |
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Gina Szanboti
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There's a reason they spend almost as much on the OP as a whole episode, and that reason is to sell the series. A trailer tells you what the story is, when it will air, etc., but the OP is the signature and branding of the series distilled into a crucial 90 seconds to make you keep watching, and no matter how much they cut corners on episodes, they make sure the OP looks as good or better than anything in the series. That's an advertisement. |
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sunflower
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The above just doesn't sound right to me. Maids gossiping about a cheap prostitute mistress is often just short hand for the rich person loving someone of a lower status than his wife. And isn't Worick a prostitute? Prostitution in this show just seems a way of life with little to no moral judgments attached. |
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AnimeAddict2014
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you don't see a lot of seinen series being animated... gangsta is a 12 episode series.. not sure how it will end but it might leave fans of the series crying 
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Gina Szanboti
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Episode 5
Very enlightening episode, but I'm kind of shocked to see Gabriella praise the animation this week when it was the worst I've noticed in the series so far. I too thought about the extra time they had, but that just made me more baffled by the lapses in animation. What was the point of those long, long shots of the garbage bags while they were talking? I think that's where Worick put the body? but couldn't see in the dark, and there was nothing else to look at there but the bags and a cat. For a full 10 seconds (ok, the first shot was "only" 7 seconds, but even the cat was gone the second time). Shades of Wizard Barristers 11. And it was especially bad during the fight scenes, when the only time anyone was on-model was in tight close-ups. Even medium shots were substandard, and longer shots looked like this. Since that was the first shot of them this episode, at first I thought, "Who is the kid fighting?" because Nic looks like some random old crone with spaghetti legs. On the other hand, I'll admit the choreography was good, so if they just clean this up for release, all is forgiven. Also didn't think the music worked quite as well this episode, though it wasn't terrible. But I love Gina. How could I not? 
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