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I'd say the same is true for DOAX3: Koei-Tecmo withdrew the game but kept English-language subtitles, I believe, because they feel the game is so niche, so fringe, as to be unprofitable in the Anglosphere, with the English translation there because they knew whatever few people were buying them would be dedicated enough to import them. (DOAX2 was not exactly a top seller either, and if I recall correctly, barely broke even, meaning Koei-Tecmo's American and European branches could use their time and resources more efficiently by choosing other games to bring over that they feel are more profitable, like the Hyrule Warriors games.)

leafy sea dragon wrote:

I'd say the same is true for DOAX3: Koei-Tecmo withdrew the game but kept English-language subtitles, I believe, because they feel the game is so niche, so fringe, as to be unprofitable in the Anglosphere, with the English translation there because they knew whatever few people were buying them would be dedicated enough to import them. (DOAX2 was not exactly a top seller either, and if I recall correctly, barely broke even, meaning Koei-Tecmo's American and European branches could use their time and resources more efficiently by choosing other games to bring over that they feel are more profitable, like the Hyrule Warriors games.)

Unfortunate for your argument, where you cite absolute zero sources other than your own biased mind, there is cold hard data that absolutely refutes your argument. For both DOAX and DOAX2, North America was by far and away the most profitable region. For DAOX in Japan it sold around 140k copies whereas in North America it sold 360k copies. For DOAX2 in Japan it sold 60k copies whereas in North America it sold 150k copies. (Source)

It makes zero sense from a financial/business view to withhold selling DOAX3 in North America when that was the region which sold the most copies of prior DOAX games.

I think you're not fully aware of what was changed in the localization. In addition to the head patting, they removed swimsuits and other cosmetic costumes,

removed some support conversations entirely,

and completely rewrote many others in addition to changing many character personalities and interactions.

It makes zero sense from a financial/business view to withhold selling DOAX3 in North America when that was the region which sold the most copies of prior DOAX games.

Megiddo wrote:

It makes zero sense from a financial/business view to withhold selling DOAX3 in North America when that was the region which sold the most copies of prior DOAX games.

It makes zero sense from a financial/business point of view to pretend that two video games selling less than half a million copies equals huge success. A game selling that many copies in market like the U.S. is considered a dud...unless the game cost peanuts to make.

Your seriously going to use Vgchartz as a source,which isn't reliable at all

500,000 copies for a Japanese title is considered a dud? Just how little about video game sales do you know? This might shock you, but ya know that Persona video game RPG series? Pretty popular among anime fans you'd say, right?

Well, there hasn't been a single Persona release that sold more copies in North America than what DOAX sold.

So unless you're saying there's no reason to bring over Persona 5 because all the previous Persona games are "duds" then you are hilariously delirious when it comes to just how much Japanese titles typically sell in North America.

It makes zero sense from a financial/business point of view to pretend that two video games selling less than half a million copies equals huge success. A game selling that many copies in market like the U.S. is considered a dud...unless the game cost peanuts to make.

It made zero sense from a purely financial or business perspective to withhold DOAX3 from the North American market since that market had the highest sales for previous DOAX games.

Let me guess Saizo & Beruka's C-Support which seems to be the only altered support people take issue with besides Corrin & Soliel's S-support.

Not censorship.

Your seriously going to use Vgchartz as a source,which isn't reliable at all

That was your argument, right? That less than 500,000 copies sold in the North American market is somehow a dud?

Persona games since none have sold 500,000 copies or more in North America and none have sold more copies than DOAX are duds.

That's bollocks. Selling 360k and even 150k is rather good for a Japanese title in North America

Therefore my previous assertion holds

Foleo, for example, tricking men into thinking he's a girl and seducing them.

Not censorship.

I have no problem with localization, but when things are taken away or written in such a way to completely make the original meaning or plot disappear completely to appease western PC sensibilities, well that is a problem.

TarsTarkas wrote:

I have no problem with localization, but when things are taken away or written in such a way to completely make the original meaning or plot disappear completely to appease western PC sensibilities, well that is a problem.

This is the crux of it right here. When a work's themes and meaning are changed for an audience, it is censorship, plain and simple.

This is the crux of it right here. When a work's themes and meaning are changed for an audience, it is censorship, plain and simple.

The works "themes and meanings" in this particular case included a petting mini-game most of the people complaining about were never buying it for in the first place. But took issue with because you couldn't do it with everyone of the NPC's in the game. Along with arguing the entire script was horrible because of a "few" aspects being altered in the localization as opposed to changes being legitimately awful.