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NEWS: Man Pleads Guilty to Coercing Girl He Met at Anime Con

I would never do such a thing at any age, not even with the cutest lady out there. Why would he? Why would she? The simple answer is because they were both willing to have sexual relations. This isn't bizarro logic, this isn't difficult reasoning. This is common sense.

I would never do such a thing at any age, not even with the cutest lady out there. Why would he?

Why would she? The simple answer is because they were both willing to have sexual relations. This isn't bizarro logic, this isn't difficult reasoning. This is common sense.

It isn't common sense if you understand the law, why the law exists, or anything at all about sexual predators.

Sailor S wrote:

(see the Duke lacrosse case for reasons to why you shouldn't always assume the woman is innocent)

What reality do you live in where everyone always assumes the woman is innocent?
It's always: What was she wearing? How much make-up did she have on? Has she ever had a boyfriend before? How hard did she fight back? Well she shouldn't have been: at that party/drinking/ drinking that much/walking in that area/out at night/out during the day/ by herself/ with those friends/on a date/such a slut/in such a crowded area/ in such an isolated area/wearing those shoes/
Because everyone knows that guys can't control themselves and doing any of the above means that she probably wanted to seduce him and she's just saying rape because she doesn't want to be labeled the slut she is and she wanted to ruin him.
That is what society says.

Isn't it evident from this very thread that many people think that the girl shared some part of the blame?

She doesn't. She is a victim. The only one at fault is the rapist.

Misogyny runs very deep in this culture.

I wish I lived in your imaginary reality.

This thread makes me sad.

It's evident from this thread that most people think that the girl shared no responsibly what so ever. And no one has said that she deserved what she got. It's horrible what happened to her, but personally, I think its a bit misogynistic to treat females like they're incapable of being anything other than innocent little lambs that just sit around waiting to be preyed upon and unable of doing anything about it. She DID choose to be with him, her friends covered for her to go be with him. I find it strange that people are debating that fact. Now then, at 13 she doesn't really know what she wants, and she was being mind-frakked by the guy so again, its not her fault and THAT can be debated. But at the same time, in her messed up little adolescence mind she was choosing. She's not 4, she might not be fully capable yet but she's not brain dead either. To say this is on par with a man drugging, kidnapping and violently raping a girl is belittling to non-consenting statutory rape. Nobody's defending the pervert and nobody's saying she wasn't a victim, its just to what extent you're going to victimize her.

Strawberryelle wrote:

It's evident from this thread that most people think that the girl shared no responsibly what so ever. And no one has said that she deserved what she got. It's horrible what happened to her, but personally, I think its a bit misogynistic to treat females like they're incapable of being anything other than innocent little lambs that just sit around waiting to be preyed upon and unable of doing anything about it. She DID choose to be with him, her friends covered for her to go be with him. I find it strange that people are debating that fact. Now then, at 13 she doesn't really know what she wants, and she was being mind-frakked by the guy so again, its not her fault and THAT can be debated. But at the same time, in her messed up little adolescence mind she was choosing. She's not 4, she might not be fully capable yet but she's not brain dead either. To say this is on par with a man drugging, kidnapping and violently raping a girl is belittling to non-consenting statutory rape. Nobody's defending the pervert and nobody's saying she wasn't a victim, its just to what extent you're going to victimize her.

I don't understand your arguement. If you acknowledge that at 13 she doesn't know what she wants and it's not her fault then it should follow that the choice she made was clearly an uninformed one.

Non-consenting statutory rape is otherwise known as regular rape. What makes it statutory are the statutes, namely the taking advantage of people under a certain age. Meaning that even if they "consent" they have no idea what they are consenting to. Think of it like the EULA. It's understood that no one REALLY reads the EULA so that even if a corporation claims you "consented" to giving up your kidneys and firstborn by agreeing to the EULA that would never hold up in court.

This is the same thing. It's very easy to trick a dumb youth into going along with whatever, and THAT is the crime.

Why are some of you people are so intent upon establishing a degree of culpability for the girl? Nine year old Thai mothers? Drunk drivers?!? Seriously? Why?

I know my question's tinged with some pretty severe indignity, but I sincerely can't understand the motives behind some of what I'm reading.

This thread makes me sad.

For some reason I was under the impression that by 13, most kids (of both sexes) have already been warned (probably repeatedly) of the dangers of getting involved with older people in any sort of sexual way, whether in person or online. Most schools teach this, right? And so do most parents.

Don't get into a stranger's car. Don't talk to strangers. Be careful with whom you talk to online and never give out any personal information about yourself. These sorts of things are there to prevent the ball from even starting to roll. Kids are told this so that they don't *get into* the position of having chats with creepy old guys who will say anything that will get them what they want.

Now I don't know what this particular girl had been told beforehand by parents, teachers, siblings, or Officer Friendly, but it's hard to believe that none of this had been told to her.

Finally, I don't get how if I point out that someone made some bad decisions that I'm somehow defending a sicko who took advantage of those bad decisions. If I blame someone for leaving their car unlocked (the bad decision) and then having it stolen (the result), does that mean that I'm defending car thieves? I don't think so.

We all make mistakes in life. God knows I've made a crazy huge number of them. But IMO it's important to recognize your mistake, determine what you did wrong, and then make sure not to do it again.

I'm glad nothing worse happened to her. There are some really heartless people in the world.

When I went to school, thirteen year olds had the mental capacity to seduce teachers to get preferential treatment, and did so. These days, I've seen girls purposefully seek out older men thanks to the statutory rape law.

Zac wrote:

This thread makes me sad.

This.

I can't believe some of the things you people are saying. What the hell is the matter with you lot?

The fact that this man went out his way to hunting underage girls to sleep with goes to show that he is ****ed in the head and is a menace to society. Since this is not his first offense they should just lock him up and throw away the key.

For those of you who say the girl wanted it, or is a slut, that does not excuse the fact that a GROWN man has taken advantage of a UNDERAGE girl when he, as an adult, should know how wrong it is, and how illegal it is, to be messing with pre-teen girls. It is disgusting regardless of the girl wanting it or not and I, personally, would not want this creep roaming around my neighborhood freely if I had children.

In regards to the girl's parents: Parents, in general, cannot protect their kids 24/7. When kids hit the teenage rebellious stage it only makes it harder on the parents to keep their kids safe. I can say this as I have done stupid shit when I was a kid, like most people have, and what my parents would do is punish/ground me for my actions. They also gave me long long lectures on why the thing(s) I did were wrong. I made mistakes, I paid the consequences for my actions, and learned to never do them again.

We've all done stupid things when we were kids/teens, yet saying its her fault that this dope took advantage of her is low. How would you feel if something like this happened to you and people pointed the finger at you while calling you a slut/man-whore/etc? If this girl was your daughter would you honestly say those horrible things to her face? If yes, I really hope that you never have kids.