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svines85
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Wow, I thought this was an odd, fluffy kind of question, but what a great answer, I had no idea. So there really is a difference, and it's the result of the evolution of the industry then, eh?
Yup, very interesting and informative, thanks a lot 
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leafy sea dragon
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Well, you have publications like MAD Magazine and series like Animaniacs that would freely use celebrities left and right and they never got in trouble over it. I always figured that if they're drawn caricatures, as long as they're never mentioned by their full names, they could feign ignorance in court and claim that it was coincidence. The link you have says Frank Sinatra claimed his likeness back in 1935, for instance, but he appeared all the time in Looney Tunes. I'd imagine the one person most threatened with dilution would've been Elvis Presley (and one can argue it did happen). I heard about how the Presley estate had, erm, trademarked his name and likeness, I think, but you still have stuff where the name "Elvis" is used without an appearance, or an Elvis impersonator appears onscreen without calling him as such, like that State Farm insurance commercial with the group of Elvis impersonators in Las Vegas. |
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EricJ2
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Back in the late 80's-early 90's, Woody Allen once sued after a video company used a celebrity lookalike in their ads (was it just the unfair use, or was it just the insulting suggestion that Woody would use a, gasp, VCR for classic movies??) The resulting court victory decided that US celebrities--and their estates, like John Wayne, Marilyn and the Stooges--can license/copyright their images for marketing use, outside of whatever clearly constitutes Fair Use parody. Leaving aside the Elvis-impersonator industry, that pretty well crushed the celebrity-lookalike business to just political figures (who were public figures and couldn't be copyrighted), and other "tributes", like stage imitations of the Marx Brothers, became too much legal hassle to continue with. And that's just US licenses, with nowhere near the dragon-hoard guarding that Japanese licensors wield. |
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residentgrigo
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The pilot to Osomatsu-san was already mentioned, and it fully proved that that messing around can lead to disaster, but cameos aren´t completely dead. The sanctioned ones that is. DRR had works from the studio and original publisher advertised in the background for example.
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0nsen
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Anime still got plenty of cameos, though.
[2004] School Rumble (Cameo: Pretty Cure) [2005] FMP S2 (Cameo: Death Note) [2008] Kannagi (Cameo: Lucky Star) [2009] Natsu no Arashi! Akinai-chuu (Cameo: School Rumble) [2010] Hanamaru Youchien (Cameo: K-On!) (If you don't see it, look closer.) [2011] Boku wa Tomodachi ga Sukunai (Cameo: OreImo) [2012] Ebiten (Cameo: Seitokai no Ichizon) [2013] Golden Time (Cameo: Nana) [2014] Yama no Susume: Second Season (Cameo: Kill La Kill) [2015] Owarimonogatari (Cameo: Splatoon) [2016] Ooya-san wa Shishunki! (Cameo: Komori-san wa Kotowarenai") Seriously. This is just a small selection from various years to make a point. They don't put porn characters in childrens television shows, like they used to, but cameos are still a thing. ([1985] Mahou no Star Magical Emi (Camo: Cream Lemon)) |
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DerekL1963
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What ep is that from? There's also supposedly a Miss Monochrome cameo in ep1 or 2 of Golden Time, but I've never been able to spot it. |
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Kadmos1
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Articles 9-10bis of the Berne Convention addresses (in the obvious broad legalese) what is akin to fair use. Some problems with these are how they are interpreted and that there are different different country standards on measuring copyright exception.
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Hikarunu
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It is because both are made by same studio, Gonzo. Fair usage of cameo there. |
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Dracospirit121
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No Game No Life mentioned a fair few shows in the Fox Girl battle, and that was like.. 2 years ago?
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Cam0
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Nana appears in Golden Time multiple times. She's Banri's neighbour. The screencap seems to be from episode 4, timestamp around 15:24. |
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Shiroi Hane
Encyclopedia Editor
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I think you mean non-Kadokawa (or specifically in terms of the music Lantis); Kyoani own neither property. |
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consignia
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I always thought this one was pretty sneaky:
I'll leave for others to work what it's from. The series itself was full parodies and references, but this one was the most blatant. I featured it in a picture quiz I did a few years back: https://dl.dropbox.com/u/2962862/2012Quiz/quiz3.jpg The rest of them have links through the author or production team, so aren't as exceptional. 24 isn't even a cameo really, either. |
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leafy sea dragon
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At least give the answer in a spoiler tag or something...It looks like something I wouldn't recognize even if I read the answer.
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0nsen
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That's not sneaky, that's pretty blatant. (And it's from Hayate no Gotoku.) This is sneaky. Easily missed because of the contrast. 
It's from the first episode of Ef: A Tale of Memories (Shaft). |
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consignia
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I didn't mean sneaky as hidden in the background, I meant it was a more a cheeky flouncing of the sort of copyright rules. The rest of the series does loads of obscuring of it's various references, but this one was done in the exact same art style, and with the same voice actress for the character. |
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