Forum - View topicThe Hidden Depths of Miss Kobayashi's Dragon Maid
|
Goto page Previous 1, 2, 3, 4 Next Note: this is the discussion thread for this article |
| Author | Message | |||||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
Vaisaga
 Posts: 13230 |
|
|||||
At least in this case they're 100% unambiguous about Tohru's intensions. That's a step up from how they normally tease but neven confirm either party. |
||||||
|
||||||
zrnzle500
 Posts: 3767 |
|
|||||
|
@uguu What constitutes actual depth to you and why does Dragon Maid and specifically the examples brought up by this piece's author fail to meet that standard? Would you object to changing deep for thoughtful at least for its depiction of family relations? I've asked this elsewhere to no avail but aside from the twister scene where is this obvious sexualization of Kanna (in the show)? Just because some people find it appealing that way doesn't mean it is inherently or intentionally so.
|
||||||
|
||||||
relyat08
 Posts: 4125 Location: Northern Virginia |
|
|||||
Of course it doesn't. But you're shoveling incredibly hateful comments on this show. You're not just saying "oh, I didn't find it particularly deep, it's just a cute moe show to me". You're saying, "This horrible show is male otaku targeted sexualized, loli, shota, near soft-core porn and horrible male-otaku sh*t is all this sexist cowtit-loving artist ever makes!" uhh... which is taking things a bit far from my point of view. I'm just pointing out that maybe it's not that horrible. Especially considering there are a lot of people(both men and women) who usually don't like very basic slice of life shows who are really digging this. |
||||||
|
||||||
reaslin
 Posts: 42 Location: Europe |
|
|||||
Relyat08 has a valid point. |
||||||
|
||||||
|
H. Guderian
Posts: 1255 |
|
|||||
|
I think the show is wonderful.
As to the why we're perceiving extra depth. I don't think the show is Plato's "The Republic," but we're getting more than we signed up for. This show isn't a fine steak. Its grilled cheese. But its really good grilled cheese. Maybe even great grilled cheese. All your co-workers and friends have started to drool thinking of this wonderful sandwich. I mean sure Steaks are good here and there, a nice thick sirloin that takes a lot of time to chew and digest. But we paid for a standard sandwich and got a lot more than we bargained for. We came to this show expecting some funny gags and cute art and got a few scenes of well-handled social commentary. I applaud the effort. |
||||||
|
||||||
Jose Cruz
 Posts: 1775 Location: South America |
|
|||||
|
The greatness of a show is proportional to the volume of stuff that shows up in Pixiv about it. In this case the page is full of references to it.
|
||||||
|
||||||
residentgrigo
 Posts: 2425 Location: Germany |
|
|||||
|
I shoudln´t even waste my time but i am a mixed race immigrant and this article is the usual ANN feature nonsense. Lesbian bait moe monster girls now represent "non-traditional" families too, i don´t even...
Rubbish like this is why is stick to news items and Answerman columns only when it comes to ANN. No anime that truly bothers to address immigration comes to mind so will recommended the US comic American Born Chinese. Edit: There is an anime with an immigration focus. Well done brain! Hidamari no Ki is a 19th century samurai / medical drama but an arc in the exact middle of the story is all about American representatives trying to "set up shop" in Japan. The real life coup d'état against them is covered too but i must admit that the main US character is an alcoholic rapist, so his murder was somewhat deserved. Celebrate that forgotten Madhouse / Tezuka classic. Yakuza Zero also recently featured an immigration plot as the main source for the core problem of the story but the writing was downright abysmal. Last edited by residentgrigo on Sun Mar 19, 2017 9:51 am; edited 3 times in total |
||||||
|
||||||
|
zrnzle500
Posts: 3767 |
|
|||||
|
I dare say that a family with two moms and an adoptive daughter constitutes a non traditional family (to say nothing about the fact that two out of three of them are dragons).
I imagine anime doesn't really address immigration as there is not much immigration in Japan. |
||||||
|
||||||
|
EmperorBrandon
Encyclopedia Editor
 Posts: 2209 Location: Springfield, MO |
|
|||||
|
There is an immigration theme in the second season of Active Raid.
|
||||||
|
||||||
|
TenCentFang
Posts: 31 |
|
|||||
These things aren't actually mutually exclusive. I'm a queer woman and I can like the show-well, for one thing, I mainly like it just for how funny it is-but I can also like it for being a deep heartwarming look at a lesbian family while also recognizing the original creator is a straight man and that the show has a bunch of gross sexual stuff in it. It's not black or white. Dragon Maid contains multitudes. |
||||||
|
||||||
|
nargun
Posts: 925 |
|
|||||
Hataraku Mao-sama is explicitly about migration, deliberately/thematically; the text of the novel makes this clearer, and also draws explicit parallels between interplanar/international migration and Japan's high level of internal migration [which... yeah, lots of that]. Amagi Brilliant Park has some similar content, but isn't as focussed on it as Mao-sama. Seirei no Moribito has a lead character who's a refugee and is almost entirely about cultural conflict. Soul Eater NOT and Little Witch Academia are the emmigrant experience, the latter more centrally. And you get shows where it's a sub-theme: Sugar Sugar Rune [or at least the manga; haven't seen the anime], or Gargantia with culture clash. Just off the top of my head. Fair numbers. |
||||||
|
||||||
|
relyat08
Posts: 4125 Location: Northern Virginia |
|
|||||
I'm also aware of that. As it is the case with probably the majority of media. There is almost always something that is objectionable to some people. But when those things are kept in check to a reasonable extent, a broader range of people tend to appreciate the media more. But regardless, you're actually helping to make my point, maybe inadvertently. Which is simply that, maybe this show isn't actually that horrible and such a superficial waste of space, like uguu seems to think. I'm sure if the sexual stuff took it far enough, you'd stop watching too. And I happen to know a few women who actually like the stuff we've seen in the show so far. Anyone have a source on the author being a straight guy by the way? I haven't actually been able to confirm that. |
||||||
|
||||||
Sakagami Tomoyo
 Posts: 940 Location: Melbourne, VIC, Australia |
|
|||||
To the best of my knowledge, no-one has been able to confirm the author's gender at all. Certain story elements make me suspect female, but so far we've got no way of knowing for sure. |
||||||
|
||||||
|
relyat08
Posts: 4125 Location: Northern Virginia |
|
|||||
Yeah, I actually thought it was a woman until this thread. A couple of people with less than kind things to say here really seem set on it being a straight guy though. 
|
||||||
|
||||||
|
JacobC
ANN Contributor
 Posts: 3728 Location: SoCal |
|
|||||
|
Cool-kyoushinja is definitely a straight dude. For reference, his previous work was "I Can't Understand What My Husband Is Saying," which is just about as adorable as Dragon Maid with a lot of similar character types. (The guy definitely has a thing for tig ol' bitties.) I have no idea if the guy is actually married or not, but the "husband" in the title is based on him. The wife as he's written her is very Kobayashi-like, and it wouldn't surprise me if she was actually someone he knows if not his actual wife or girlfriend because their relationship feels very natural, just like the relationships in Dragon Maid.
|
||||||
|
||||||
 |
All times are GMT - 5 Hours |
|
|
|
Powered by phpBB © 2001, 2005 phpBB Group