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Buried Treasure - Hideaki Anno Talks to Kids

Oh crap! I think I got it somewhere buried too! It's either with artbooks or other mags like Newtype I sure hope I didn't throw it out.

I remember it was soem sort of space one on the cover, Stevia or Last Exlie. Crap. I hope it;s the right one. This sounds interesting.

Does anybody want to sell their copy?

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UtenaAnthy wrote: Love is not unconditional, if you think I'd love someone who beat me you've got another thing coming, this whole "in love" thing is fascist, I would however make friends with someone with depression, maybe I could help them out of it.

So, you think hating them is going to make things any better? Obviously I don't expect everyone to get along but if you hate everyone that wrongs it doesn't make things better. All it brings is more agony if history has taught us anything and then we'd all be on antidepressants. If you can only love the people that love you back, then how can they love you if you don't love them first? Because if love is not unconditional, then how can they love you first since you didn't love them first because they would want you to love them first before they love you? If love isn't unconditional, then the whole concept of love would be contradictory. Loving someone based on a set of conditions isn't love. That's called being selfish. And please explain how trying to get along with humanity is being "fascist" again because you've lost me.

(Gerald)

I actually have a copy of this sitting around and it was certainly VERY weird. Especially since it's obvious that NHK didn't really know what they were getting into when they asked him to do this. There are times when the female announcer makes some comments like "What a strange thing for a grown man to do?".

It was pretty eye opening and it shows just how strange and complex a guy Anno is, I also seem to remember him having a major problem relating to the kids except for this one little girl who seemed to be a Kamen Rider or Ultraman fan, with whom he seemed engaged in rather in depth discussion of.

Maybe I should encode this thing so others can check it out since it is pretty unique?

NHK have done other anime docus - believe one of "The Professionals" series was about GHIBLI?? http://www.nhk.or.jp/professional/ Can't find an English link right now ...

I said being "in love" is fascist, not love

If you don't understand this you are quite the oblivious misogynist, with no concern for the abused, I probably would still love that person a small bit, because I love everyone, but I can love someone and still want them to be in jail and away from me. Plus the abuser is the selfish person, not the person who doesn't want to be anywhere near the abuser, you *****.

nicomorr wrote:

NHK have done other anime docus - believe one of "The Professionals" series was about GHIBLI?? http://www.nhk.or.jp/professional/ Can't find an English link right now ...

Yes; it was really about SUZUKI Toshio.
Available on DVD ( http://www.cdjapan.jp/detailview.html?KEY=NSDS-10205 ) but no English translation...

Found the home of the (very good) ARTE doumentary "Ghibli & le mystère Miyazaki" http://www.arte.tv/fr/cinema-fiction/cinema-d-animation-asiatique/718330.html

As such, I found the series, and the last two episodes especially, very meaningful.

But to those who've never gone through such a thing, it just looks like emo vomit, and I completely understand that point of view.

jsevakis wrote:

As such, I found the series, and the last two episodes especially, very meaningful. But to those who've never gone through such a thing, it just looks like emo vomit, and I completely understand that point of view.

Kudos to Justin for summing up the disconnect between people on Evangelion so succinctly.

"Do you like the anime you make?"

"There's parts I like and parts I don't."

"What parts do you dislike?"

"The parts that I'm in."

After a quick school lunch (Anno barely eats, and refuses all meat and fish)...

After the kids present their (much improved) animations, Anno wraps up by explaining the point of such free-form exercises. "In school tests, there's only one answer for each question, and you might get zero or half points if you're wrong. But in the real world, things aren't so black and white, so think about things on your own and express them in words or pictures. That's how you communicate with people. That's so important."

Anime, as with everything else, is not something that should be done by the depressed.

Of course, as the movie is meant to be an f-you to the fans that could never understand that, he has Shinji go in the other direction from healing, outright violent psychosis. (see: last scene with Asuka on the beach)

jsevakis wrote:

Of course, as the movie is meant to be an f-you to the fans that could never understand that, he has Shinji go in the other direction from healing, outright violent psychosis. (see: last scene with Asuka on the beach)

Uh, what? Unless I misunderstand you, Justin, I'm simply surprised that somewhat like you would have this incorrect belief. The movie still has the same message as the end of the television series, spoiler[and that final scene we get is essentially after Instrumentality ends in both the television series and the movie.] Not to mention that Shinji can be excused for his actions, or at least understood. spoiler[A lot of time has passed between Shinji coming back from the sea of LCL and to the state that we see him in at the final scene. Misato's rusted pendant and grave markers are visual evidence of that, never mind Shinji looks distinctly different than we've ever seen him. If you were promised that others would be returning to a ruined world that is beginning to heal itself and nobody does for weeks, perhaps over a month or two, in addition to everything else that happened, then you'd be a bit crazy too.]

I'd have to agree with Justin on that point too. In the movie, Anno seems to have set out to make the most disturbing depiction of each of his characters.

I don't know that it was an intentional f-you, but there was clearly some kind of resentment that led to it.

Or perhaps profound depression beyond what manifested during his direction of the TV series.

But it seems that Anno had completely given up on the idea of making something enjoyable and just decided to go full bore with the violence and grotesque imagery.

For those who preferred the gentler more intelligent approach of the series' ending, it is essentially an f-you, whether meant that way or not.

I mean, let's see: one story ends with spoiler[Shinji being applauded for deciding to accept the world and himself and his place in it and to bring back the people he knew], and the other ends with spoiler[him choking his would-be girlfriend]. Hmm. One is spoiler[happy], and one is spoiler[dark and nihilistic].